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user728672
01:17
This "world" map shows Stack Exchange. So It begs to question, what sort of government would it be? And what does our flag look like.?visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/…
02:15
@user728672 @GWarner there's a city just for meta haha
@Catija something vaguely like the vatican? Small, independant, and stuck in the middle of a much bigger country? :D
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A: Turning off the mobile feed for the Stack Exchange app

Joonas IlmavirtaUnfortunately this update renders the app almost useless to me. I found the feed of all notifications very useful. It allowed me to see comments, answers, and chat pings specifically without marking them as read. A substantial fraction of the messages require an action I can't or prefer not to ta...

unrelatedly... this seems a potentially useful point
... I never look at the feed so I can't really understand that point.
If it shows inbox notifications, I've never noticed it.
Or did, anyway... it doesn't seem to now. ? Did we actually disable it already?
Its supposed to be
I'm not actually sure
02:29
I don't see that. I see one random HNQ and the MSE question announcing the feed is going away.
That's a really old reply so I wonder if the 'feed' is just frozen in time
You're on ios tho...
I wonder if the behaviour is different between platforms
... yes?
Who knows.
:D
I'm mainly trying to figure out where/when/how to do an omnibus post of "stuff third party SE clients might need" :D
Blue???!!!
02:35
o_o
ugh, new phone screenshots are huge
Yup. I have that problem with my iPhone pro
and I uninstalled the app (well nearly everything but the work RSA token thing cause I don't know if our admin person remembered to move it for the new thing they are adding us to) off my last phone
 
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Rob
Rob
03:40
Blue is likely to indicate that it's a Whiteboard marker: medium.com/graphicfacilitation/…
 
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06:10
chewed
Beats me, I'm almost as lost as he was
:D
user152859
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@Spevacus: @Tinkeringbell Thanks for running through each field and sanity-checking/nitpicking! I'll apply some more changes tomorrow and let others weigh in while the question sits there for awhile. With regard
@Spevacus Since I can only see one mention of 'child meta'... and since I find 'per-site meta' just as vague... why not 'This question should have been posted on another site's meta rather than on Meta Stack Exchange because it relates only to one specific site.' ?
(I haven't been watching character counts)
user152859
07:04
that doesn't work anymore? ...
sdc k k k
@Luuklag @Luuklag No such command 'k'.
07:06
hmmm
user152859
???
still works; k is an alias of tpu-, so its output is suppressed
user152859
meh too complicated lol
user152859
I'll stick with direct replies.
user152859
@Meta Andrew T. @MetaAndrewT. I used k, it just didn't work with a number.
user152859
07:10
Probably there is a way, but it's too rocket science for me. ;)
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I believe it works, but it doesn't output anything because k has - that suppresses the output
user152859
@Meta Andrew T. @MetaAndrewT. ohh no, I wasn't expecting a reply from Smokey, I checked the MS link. It didn't register my reply.
user152859
I'll test again soon if you want.
07:57
only 9 more days left for my Epic badge
And also the first time I'm ever on a #1 spot: stackexchange.com/leagues/4/week/meta
Nice! Trakteren!
 
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09:20
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 nothing removed 😁😁
\o/
09:46
Hmmm is it supposed to be that a past election shows that there were 2 candidates, but only show 1 candidate. I assume the other candidate has since been deleted, but still feels strange that the candidate doesn't show up at all. Would be better to note that there was a deleted user right?
@Tinkeringbell @Tinkeringbell Hmmm they only fixed it for certain sites it appears
Sounds like a bug report to me then.
Or a support request.
10:02
I left a comment on yaakov's answer. If it happens it happens
it isn't something that bothers me
btw, you guys heard, the internet has been sold
Yeah, for quite some money too!
> Oh no, not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the ---world--- net
hm
no strikethrough in quotes?
world
Apparently it works fine without, so yes.
Also amusingly
i.sstatic.net/MhZHd.png the lyrics include the banter from the singer in a concert
since they're from MTV unplugged album rather than the David Bowie Original
10:16
I must admit I don't remember the song based on text only.
The man who sold the world :D
Rob
Rob
5.4M for:
> Included in the purchase are NFTs representing about 9,555 lines of code written in 1990-1991, a 30-minute animated visualisation of the code, a digital poster of the code, and a digital letter written by Berners-Lee in June 2021, reflecting on his invention.
user152859
ohh it takes time to update in MS
user152859
blames cache
user152859
!!/blame cache
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 It's Ayo's fault.
user152859
OK that would be fine too.
user152859
11:01
:D
user152859
throw cache on @M.A.R
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Can't remember
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
user152859
You can see it
user152859
Click the deleted message and you'll have "history" link
user152859
Yup there is. At least when it's self deleted, not sure if also when deleted by others.
11:09
I can't see history on your deleted post
That is an old tape deck and daaaaang that's a nice service manual
11:26
user152859
@Luuklag @Luuklag no, I'm not RO here
Rob
Rob
11:53
@Luuklag @Luuklag @Sha is Ro on DS9.
@sha is @Rob?
;)
Rob
Rob
@Luuklag @Luuklag A sharob? - Google that, which one did you mean?
@Rob @Rob Lot of strange results there
user152859
@Luuklag @Luuklag RO-b
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 sounds like a cheap rapper
user152859
12:02
@Luuklag @Luuklag like this one? ;)
user152859
(someone with actual name Sharob lol)
hahaha
user152859
There's even a shirt!
user152859
user152859
Let's see Shalag...
user152859
12:06
oops turns out it's Israeli company so everything is about the company. Weird, as it has no meaning in Hebrew.
Rob
Rob
12:25
wow, that looks horrible @Rob
Rob
Rob
It's part octopus, part devil, part fairly, and part jerboa.
That's just an overly long sleeve
user152859
12:55
@Luuklag @Luuklag true. Remind me to never make kids with you! :D
user152859
@John Dvorak @JohnDvorak funny enough, Shajohn is very famous! ;)
user152859
Shaji John, professionally credited by his stage name Kalabhavan Shajohn is an Indian film actor, director and comedian who works primarily in Malayalam cinema. He started his career as a mimicry artist in Kalabhavan, Kochi. Making his debut in 1999 with My Dear Karadi and having made more than 90 appearances, he received a major breakthrough in his career with Drishyam (2013), in which he played a negative role. He made his directorial debut with Brother's Day starring Prithviraj. As of June 2021, he has starred in more than 130 Malayalam films. == Personal life == He was born as Shaji John to...
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I agree!
user152859
:)
Rob
Rob
13:25
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 They'd be more likely to look like this:
user152859
@Rob @Rob this is actually not bad. ;)
Rob
Rob
The diamonds on the face look 🤡
user152859
13:48
@Rob @Rob diamonds?
user152859
whoa three lurkers!
user728672
did i not share my memorial to a dead virtual pet here? dam my disrespect
user152859
?
Rob
Rob
Diamonds is one of the four suits of playing cards in the standard French deck. It is the only French suit to not have been adapted from the German deck, taking the place of the suit of Bells . The original French name of the suit is Carreau; in German it is known as Karo. In older German-language accounts of card games, Diamonds are frequently referred to as Eckstein ("cornerstone"). In Switzerland, the suit is still called Egge (=Ecke i.e. "corner") today. The term "Karo" went into the German language in the 18th century from the French carreau, which goes back to the Latin word, quadrum, meaning...
user152859
What did I miss? @GWar
user728672
13:50
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner who is it and how is he related to Tavern?
Rob
Rob
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 What do you call them?
user152859
@Rob @Rob oh
user728672
Its a pet dog in Fallout games
user728672
13:51
The real dog died
user152859
@Rob @Rob dunno, still not sure what you mean, the shape of @Luuk's identicon?
user728672
I opnly spmmaed it to 2 other chat rooms.
Rob
Rob
🚀⚗️
user152859
Fair enough, you're no longer lurker, at least for now! @GWarner :D
user728672
aint this where we cry in our virtual beers
user152859
13:52
Actually almost no beer here, ironically.
It's a non-alcoholic Tavern... :D
user728672
thank you.
user728672
oh okay.
You can have some strawberry banana juice, though.
user152859
Yay! Another lurker de-lurked.... :P
user152859
13:53
Last one might need...
user728672
ahh. a tavern for scandinavians?
user152859
!!/coffee cig
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 brews a cup of jQuery for @cig
user728672
no offense of course
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner barbarians
user152859
13:54
or barbers?
user152859
I need a barber
user152859
You can see from my avatar... and it's longer now...
user728672
actually i should gogle what country has the least number of alkyhol brands
Rob
Rob
Yes,get 4 inches cut.
user152859
Record was in the first COVID lockdown, year ago.... four months (!) without a haircut.
user728672
13:55
that aint long thats 'pandemic stylish'
user152859
I did have long hair as teenager, so not counting that.
user728672
you arent a teenager?
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner yeah but we don't have lockdown now, it's just me being lazy. lol
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner LOL, if you ask for real I'm very excited. :P
user152859
I'm thrice the age of teenager. @GWarner
13:57
Having met Sha in person very recently, I can confirm he is not a teenager :P
user152859
@Mithical @Mithical lol how so? Did you see my ID card? ;)
user152859
I might be teenager who look old. :P
user728672
oh. well i gave up on long hair when i couldnt wash it for 3 days. that was 2003
I gave up on long hair when the military made me chop it off.
user728672
i was kidding i think i was lurking when someone was discussing how young you looked a week ago?\
13:58
(It'll make a reappearance once I'm out.)
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner why couldn't you wash it?
user728672
i was unable to get out of hospital bed. and it was more like a week.
user152859
@Mithical @Mithical ohhh... sad! Well I gave up on it when I realized it makes me look too feminine, and that's not what I wanted. To be honest.. I totally forgot why I had it. Maybe some stupid bet gone wrong.
user728672
now that i recall that nightmare
user152859
It wasn't that bad, I washed it as usual, just had to comb the hair daily where I never comb my hair otherwise.
user728672
14:01
i got Open heart surgery . had my ribs opened liked a garden gate
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner sorry to hear.... that sucks. What happened to you?
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner that's nasty
user152859
Sorry to hear, and glad you're OK now! :)
user728672
yea. its been a real eye opener
user152859
@Mithical @Mithical good, I believe it will fit you well. :)
user152859
14:03
@user728672 @GWarner so since then you keep healthy diet, etc?
user152859
I torture my poor body.
user152859
But I want to believe it will signal me when it won't be able to handle it any longer. ;)
user152859
(in a gentle way, not just stop lol)
user728672
pretty much. biggest change was i lost my urge to smoke.
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner heh, that's also a way to get rid of that bad habit
user728672
14:05
yes.
user152859
I'm still not sure about your long hair though, you had haircut while in hospital?
user728672
. no. they wrapped it all up in a plastic baggy thing. and after 3 days removed it so i could brush it and sponge bath it.
user728672
I asked they wouldnt cut it.
user152859
Crappy answers maybe but can't see spam of offensive stuff in there.
user728672
14:09
so after i could walk enough to sit on a bar stool i let a friend cut it short.
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 This one could certainly use some flags.
user152859
@Ollie @Ollie ^
user152859
It's also not NAA from what I see it's honest attempt to answer. So, VLQ?
user152859
It's about sleeping schedule, and author disagree with other answers.
user152859
14:11
@user728672 @GWarner oh, I see. Why not growing it back later then?
user728672
Well that post does not fit 'Be Nice'
user152859
re-reading
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 the first couple of lines do seem to answer the question, but then it degenerates.
user728672
It was already greying. and grey hair gets stiff and unmanageable.
user728672
i think i was done with long hair.
I R/A flagged it indeed
user152859
@Ollie @Ollie still, fluff and noise can be removed. I honestly don't see direct offense towards other people.
its just a big rant
^ That one.
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 From my POV, most of it is fluff and noise.
user152859
@Luuklag @Luuklag it's "Here, see what I do with my children, you're doing it wrong" answer with lots of noise. But meh, won't fight you. :D
user152859
14:15
Downvoted both, but still not convinced enough to red flag. Mod will probably nuke them soon anyway. ;)
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 "Then bam your gone with the other 40 million missing little girls that are being traded right now for sex with some fat slob of and old man that want to do mean vile things to you. So now how do you feel about your question online with a bunch of adults you do not know. Adults that should have fucking ignored you and did lilke your parents and sent you to bed."
this aint a nice part
user152859
@user728672: It was already greying. and grey hair gets stiff and unmanageable.
@GWarner well gray hairs for me too, didn't notice any difference in the texture of the hair though.
user152859
@Luuklag @Luuklag it's not directed at anyone specific as far as I can tell, it's a general rant towards the unfair world/life.
user152859
Looks like the author went through some not very nice things, so trying to warn others. Dunno.
user728672
14:17
grrrrr
user152859
Put ! in front. @GWarner
user152859
This will force onebox as image.
user728672
user152859
yup
user728672
I have corase grizzlly like hair. so its even worse.
user152859
14:19
ohh
user152859
I see now
user152859
lol
user728672
I spent so much on conditioner and oils.
user728672
just to have hair I had to keep in a ponytail down to the middle of my back
user152859
Never used conditioner, not even when I had long hair. Neither any oil.
user152859
14:20
I do use some moisture cream though every day to keep the hair at bay.
user728672
so is anti combing a cultural thing? or you just blessed with silken hair?
user152859
@user728672 @GWarner lol no idea, I just use the cream in the morning, organize the hair in the way I want it to be with my hands, and that is it. :)
user728672
Well i'll be Bach.
user152859
Bach is good, but hope you mean back.
user152859
I have scary thing next to me, halp!
user152859
14:23
oh it's only a cat. sigh of relief
user152859
@Mithical you're a brave soldier, you'll come to protect me if I need, right? :D
Sorry, I'm strictly non-combat. ;)
🚽
ooh, non-combat soldiers are a thing?
@Kevin B @KevinB 🔨
14:29
@Sha Thanks for the bounty o/
@John Dvorak @JohnDvorak The majority of soldiers here are non-combat
Like, I'm in communications / tech
user152859
@Mithical @Mithical but... but... you're a soldier! Well, maybe just seeing you in uniform would be enough to turn away bad people. :P
(I don't know if Sha paid any attention, but my shoulder tag is covered in binary)
Friend of mine does some sort of computer tech job in Alaska. He enjoys the work specifically, but not so much being far from home and all.
user152859
@Spevacus @Spevacus to be honest, meant to give it to @Ollie when starting the bounty, but now when going over your answer realized you spent much more effort on it, so deserve it more. ;)
14:30
<3
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 wait, that was for me? The dirty bas-
Nah, you're right ;)
user152859
:D
user152859
Take this instead:
I thought we closed more questions during the burnination tbh but I guess it really was only 2...
user152859
!!/coffee Ollie
14:31
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 brews a cup of Macchiato for @Ollie
user152859
LOL
20 years from now ^^
zero hair
user152859
dies laughing
lol
user152859
14:31
comes back as ghost to hunt @Rob
Rob
Rob
I was only prepared to spend so much time on that.
@Rob @Rob it was well spent, judging from the reaction.
user152859
hehe
Rob
Rob
Mobile apps.
user152859
14:33
user152859
@Mithical @Mithical hmm? What is it pointing at?
user152859
@Ollie @Ollie good point, might edit my answer adding a new reason. ;)
user152859
14:35
@Mithical @Mithical ohh lol, wasn't familiar with that.
user152859
Anime Wizard!
basically
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 especially this one. @Tink makes a good point about commitment.
user152859
oh I still owe you selfie with sunglasses and the mask
user152859
@Ollie @Ollie +1
14:36
Or I could write an answer...
user152859
@John Dvorak: ooh, non-combat soldiers are a thing?
@JohnDvorak there are several "stages" of combat-ability (?) for IDF soldiers. The most basic/low get very basic weapon training when starting to serve, but don't get to hold weapons afterwards, unless there's case of emergency.
user152859
@Ollie @Ollie sure, go ahead! ;)
so you're always at risk of being told to start killing.
I mean... no.
I was told that even in the very rare case where I have a weapon (which did happen a few months ago), that it's always better to not aim to kill. Use it only in self-defense, and preferably not to kill.
user152859
@John Dvorak @JohnDvorak hmm after reading about it now, I was wrong.
user152859
14:41
Those without proper training won't be called to fight with weapons even in case of war.
user152859
@Mithical you're רובאי 02, right?
user152859
I am 03. :D
...I think so?
user152859
Did you go through several weeks of training? @Mith
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I can't be sent into combat, but I can be told to take a weapon along when going on an operation.
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 two weeks
user152859
14:42
@Mithical @Mithical yeah for self defense
user152859
@Mithical @Mithical sounds enough, you're רובאי 02 then. ;)
I did basic training 02, so...
What kind of operations?
In my case? Communication equipment fixes.
The exact details are secret ;)
secretz
top secretz
user152859
14:45
@Mithical: I was told that even in the very rare case where I have a weapon (which did happen a few months ago), that it's always better to not aim to kill. Use it only in self-defense, and preferably not to kil
@Mithical well that's true even for the most skilled and trained soldiers, it's always best to try not to kill the enemy, unless it's really a must.
user152859
So it's called "neutralize the enemy" as far as I remember.
If they ever find the need here in NL, I can be called into service. Not that I have any training or so.
user152859
Of course many times it results in dead enemy, but still....
user152859
@Luuklag @Luuklag huh. So you'll just be given a weapon and sent to battle?
user152859
invading NL
14:48
I... kinda doubt that? You'll probably have to do some sort of basic training... if only just to learn how the weapon works.
user152859
Trial and error!
user152859
Shooting your comrades is awesome way to learn quickly.
user152859
:D
Once you turn 18 you get a letter, that they postponed calling people for mandatory service. But when the need arises you can still be called
I bet Tink also has had such a letter
user152859
Did it ever happen, since WW2?
14:50
I think my dad was one of the last to be called before they postponed it, then nothing happened
user152859
heh
This is a list of wars involving the Kingdom of the Netherlands and its predecessor states since 1560. During the first war after 1560, namely the Eighty Years' War (1566–1648), the set of united provinces that would later become the Dutch Republic proclaimed its independence in 1581. United Provinces, or Dutch Republic (1581–1795) Batavian Republic (1795–1806) Kingdom of Holland (1806–1810) Sovereign Principality of the United Netherlands (1813–1815) United Kingdom of the Netherlands (1815–1839) Kingdom of the Netherlands (1839–present)For earlier wars, see List of wars in the Low Countries until...
We do have voluntary reserves though, they do stuff every now and then
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@Luuklag @Luuklag UN, I think.
Nah more like humanitarian relieve and stuff
user152859
14:51
Peacekeeping by the United Nations is a role held by the Department of Peace Operations as "a unique and dynamic instrument developed by the organization as a way to help countries torn by conflict to create the conditions for lasting peace". It is distinguished from peacebuilding, peacemaking, and peace enforcement although the United Nations does acknowledge that all activities are "mutually reinforcing" and that overlap between them is frequent in practice.Peacekeepers monitor and observe peace processes in post-conflict areas and assist ex-combatants in implementing the peace agreements they...
user152859
Not those folks? ^
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 those are enlisted soldiers
I'd assume
user152859
oh
Do you still do milu'im, @Sha?
@sha, this is what the reserve does: nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militaire_reserve
in dutch though
But basically non-combat tasks, like security details when there are many people on deployment, or large events etc.
Or other specialist jobs they lack the manpower for
Like IT staff etc.
well im off, cya guys
user152859
14:57
@Mithical @Mithical nope, got my פטור when I turned 40
user152859
I did serve lots of times though over the years, lots of good memories. :)
user152859
@Luuklag @Luuklag heh, nice.
Rob
Rob
15:18
They could always call you to fill and place sandbags.
user152859
15:46
Did it!
user152859
user152859
Hair bit longer, and glasses reflect the sun. ;)
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 that mask looks a bit like a piece of a trash bag.
user152859
lol maybe it is! :D
user152859
But yeah it's used, I had it in my pocket for several weeks as we didn't have to use masks until recently.
user152859
15:48
Kept it because used it only for short while, weeks ago.
user152859
We still don't have to wear masks while out in the open, only when inside closed spaces with lots of people, like supermarket. (Where I was headed)
Or on the bus.
Not that you'd know it by looking at a bus.
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 our governor's relaxed masking a bit for vaccinated people; although a couple people at the town meetings have overlooked the "for vaccinated people" part...
user152859
@Mithical @Mithical yup
user152859
@Mithical @Mithical how? Windows are transparent. Or should be.... ;)
user152859
15:54
@Ollie @Ollie heh. Here the variant hit also vaccinated people, so it's for everyone.
@user152859 @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 ...because nobody actually wears a mask on the bus. (I do. But most people aren't.)
We don't use buses thanks to where we live, although we're one car down thanks to a screwed axle, so
Rob
Rob
16:10
@Sha 'll be back!
@Rob @Rob GET TO ZE CHOPPA
Rob
Rob
The Wizinator
16:34
\o @Ayo
user728672
17:28
user728672
anyone here familiar with SE data explorer?
@user728672 @GWarner what do you want to know?
user728672
what language is query done in.
user728672
ive been looking at some queries for sake of editting legacy posts but i'd like to fine tune an existing one (i guess thats a 'fork'
@user728672 @GWarner It is sql server, so it is T-SQL, also mentioned on the last page of the tutorial: data.stackexchange.com/tutorial/next-steps
user728672
17:38
oh i missed that. thanx
user728672
18:03
user728672
Sir Elton Shadow "I'll be Bach!"
18:26
Hey people! Do you have any idea how long will SE/SO employees take to reply after contacting them through contact page?
I contacted them a month ago and still didn't get a response.
I am not sure if asking a question in MSE would be the right thing to do. That's why I'm asking in chat.
Depends on what you contacted them about.
@Glorfindel @Glorfindel hmm.. I already read that question. The answer was written in 2017. Is the answer out-dated? Did the procedure change?
@Mithical @Mithical hmm.
@Random Person @RandomPerson no, but the amount of people available to answer did (it decreased).
Some things won't get a response at all, if it's dismissed out of hand
18:33
I don't need to know what you asked, but apparently it's non-trivial :)
If a longer amount of time is expected, then usually the assigned individual will send a ticket saying something along the lines of "We are looking into this but it may take a while." I didn't get any such ticket and the definition of "receive a response shortly" varies from person to person.
@Glorfindel @Glorfindel Who left the team?
@Mithical @Mithical That's weird..
@Random Person
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Q: Why is SE gutting the CM team?

Mad ScientistIt looks like SE has fired two of the most experienced CMs just now. What does this mean for the community, and for the plans SE has for the future of the network? In a blog post about new feedback mechanisms SE identified the following challenge: Difficulty scaling support for moderators fr...

it's easier to answer who remained ...
@Glorfindel @Glorfindel In the answer, JNat and animuson were mentioned. If I'm not wrong, they are still working for SE/SO
@Glorfindel @Glorfindel Yup. It is non-trivial.
@Mithical @Mithical :(
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@Random Person @RandomPerson Jnat is a cm, animuson and grace note are support abd that's cm adjacent.
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