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Sep 6, 2019 at 17:27 comment added dzaima @Oliver 1) probably. 2) I don't know why, but with 'first' sounds better to me, but that could possibly just be me.
Sep 4, 2019 at 18:43 comment added Oliver Shouldn't it be "[...] first post proposed challenges to the Sandbox."? to instead of in? I also think it would sound better if you dropped the word first. "[...] it is highly recommended to post proposed challenges to the Sandbox."
Sep 4, 2019 at 16:20 comment added DJMcMayhem Mod This is officially live now, so I'm accepting this answer.
Sep 4, 2019 at 16:20 vote accept DJMcMayhem
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Aug 30, 2019 at 13:59 comment added dzaima @SriotchilismO'Zaic ah okay, yeah, that does make sense.
Aug 30, 2019 at 13:55 comment added Wheat Wizard Mod The issue I see is that newcomers often misinterpret this to mean more like a validity criterion. e.g. an answer wins if it does XYZ. Scoring criterion doesn't seem to have this issue. I personally have shifted to using Scoring criterion when explaining it to newcomers and I have found it effective.
Aug 30, 2019 at 11:36 comment added dzaima @xnor Answering is way easier to do correctly as there are bound to be examples around you, there are way smaller consequences, and the generic SE popup already says "Anybody can answer". If the info box allowed to enter newlines, a second smaller paragraph about TNB & answering would make sense though
Aug 30, 2019 at 11:25 comment added dzaima @SriotchilismO'Zaic how is winning criterion more misleading? There are scoring systems where answers aren't actually scored (e.g. answer-chaining, some king-of-the-hills) and while I'm okay with not including those in the info box for purposes of clarity, I don't see how it is clearer
Aug 30, 2019 at 1:05 comment added xnor Adám's post made me realize it might be good to mention something about answering challenges before stuff on writing them. Unlike most SE sites, answering is easier and new users usually do that first.
Aug 29, 2019 at 22:15 comment added Wheat Wizard Mod Could we say "scoring criterion" instead of "winning criterion". The former is clearer and more accurate to what it describes while the former is a bit outdated and misleading.
Aug 29, 2019 at 18:30 comment added dzaima @mbomb007 implemented. Makes sense, I didn't think much about capitalization.
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Aug 29, 2019 at 18:26 comment added mbomb007 I think it should be "the Sandbox", with the 'S' capitalized, and the link should exclude the.
Aug 29, 2019 at 17:55 comment added xnor Since this info box has to be short, I think we should add the suggested first-timer guidance to the Sandbox question itself, like how long to Sandbox questions and what to do if nobody comments, and add links to relevant meta FAQ's and Things to Avoid.
Aug 29, 2019 at 15:12 comment added flawr @dzaima Right, while I don't think the amount of time in the sandbox has any significance a link to TNB would certainly be nice
Aug 29, 2019 at 14:41 comment added Catija StaffMod That's a great thing to consider, @dzaima! As we direct more users to specific guidance, it's good to make sure that guidance has everything a first-time visitor would need without being too much info!
Aug 29, 2019 at 12:43 comment added dzaima @flawr that should be already the purpose of the current sandbox, though now looking at its post, i notice that it doesn't mention anything about how long answers should stay there or TNB, etc. imo the FAQ should be in the sandbox itself, but that's a separate issue
Aug 29, 2019 at 12:32 comment added flawr I'd make a comment that sandboxing alone is not enough but that they should also seek out some feedback. (Or maybe we should also introduce a newbie-sandbox?)
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Aug 29, 2019 at 10:59 comment added dzaima @DJMcMayhem yeah, I guess that would make sense
Aug 28, 2019 at 20:09 comment added DJMcMayhem Mod What would you think about changing the first sentence to Code Golf Stack Exchange is a site for recreational programming competitions, not general programming questions.? Personally, I think this info box would be a great spot to explicitly state that code troubleshooting questions aren't on topic
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Aug 28, 2019 at 18:46 comment added dzaima @Poke yeah, I thought about objective vs clear, but didn't even notice i wrote condition instead of criterion, which does sound much better
Aug 28, 2019 at 18:33 comment added Poke +1 I like the "objective winning criterion" vernacular of the other answers but I think this answer the best.
Aug 28, 2019 at 17:48 history answered dzaima CC BY-SA 4.0