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| Mar 3, 2025 at 13:48 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | @ChrisH The question was all about convenience (only secondarily frugality). I hate cleaning Pyrex (anything that goes in the oven even if I don't have to fear breaking it). I guess an explanation how grilling/broiling is convenient (and how to best do it). Would constitute a fine answer. I hate cleaning roasting pans. The bigger the more cumbersome. | |
| Mar 3, 2025 at 13:34 | comment | added | Chris H | @GeorgeNtoulos convenience is another matter, but you shouldn't need to clean the oven after grilling one meal and the pan should take a similar amount of cleaning to your frying pan. A new stove should have a warranty - failing within a couple of months it has to be faulty however you're using it | |
| Mar 3, 2025 at 12:35 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | @ChrisH I found no stand-alone replacement grill element. I had to replace my entire cooker after a month or two. I have abnormally high voltage at times. But then how is cleaning 1 the oven, 2 the rack, 3 the pan to hold the juices/fat as convenient as cleaning 1 frying pan. The stove and the frying pan are at the height I find convenient for cooking. The oven is much lower. | |
| Mar 3, 2025 at 10:46 | comment | added | Chris H | @GeorgeNtoulos a replacement grill element should exist. Many elements fit multiple models. And they run so much cooler than the photon sources you mention that lifetime should be very long unless you're unlucky - decades in near-daily use is normal. If you have abnormally high voltage at times, that will hit the lifetime, but abnormally low just makes for slower grilling | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 23:07 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | @fyrepenguin There are at least 14 meals per week 61 in a month. In a month more than 40 of the meals are candidates for pan frying (steaks, chops, fish, chicken). We can't always agree (between 3 siblings) to eat the same thing. The oven (conduction, air etc) and the stove are still fine. The single function missing is the grilling function. A compounding factor is the scarcity in the market of replacements for a single feature. Electricity also isn't very stable even more so in my place. Overloads abrade the wire even faster. | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 22:11 | comment | added | fyrepenguin | If your oven burns out after being used 20 times (5x a week for 4 weeks) then you have bigger problems. | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 19:15 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | Because it is not a single one but several in a week. I tried doing (grilling several times a week) and the heating resistor (the burner) burnt in a single month. The physics behind it are pretty simple (thats how lamps worked and how we get XRAYs) when a metal heats up it radiates light and electrons pop out (Joule Phenomenon) the wire gets progressively thinner. At some point the wire breaks/ruptures. You would need to replace the burner but there are no burners in the market. It is fine doing this once or twice a month with finer pieces of meat. That way the element can last for decades. | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 18:32 | comment | added | Kate Bunting | Why on earth would grilling a chop necessitate replacing the entire oven? | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 18:13 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | If I try to do this several times per week I will spend a lot of time cleaning and a lot of money replacing the entire oven/cooker/stoves. One can't find on the market just the heating element (the one that burns red on the grilling fuction of the oven) of the grill on top of the oven. | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 17:42 | comment | added | Joe | You might get some smoke, but if you pre-heat the oven, any spatter should burn off the element as soon as it hits it. Other surface not quite as much, but distance from the burner affects how much spatter you get. | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 17:31 | history | edited | George Ntoulos | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
explaing what I meant with frequently
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| Feb 28, 2025 at 17:31 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | @KateBunting I meant Izzy SM-20 maxi Grill 1800 but grilling using the oven can easily get your resistance (the grill the element on top of the oven that radiates heat) burned. One would have to clean the Oven, the Rack and the Pan that holds the juices that fall. Not the most convenient thing I can imagine doing several times a week. | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 17:26 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | @Joe I should have explained earlier what I meant with toasting. Izzy SM-20 maxi Grill 1800 more of a sandwich maker even thought it actually cooked the meats and even has clearly the cooking times for it. Charbroiling is awfully inconvinient (equipment etc). Boiling a steak must leave an awfull taste. I sometimes boil chicken but only those. | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 17:23 | comment | added | Kate Bunting | I usually grill (broil) chops on a rack so they are not sitting in their own fat. I'm not sure what kind of 'toaster' you mean - presumably not the kind you put slices of bread in and they pop up when done? (Have just seen your edit. I've never used one of those, but where I come from (UK) kitchens usually have a grill as part of the cooker (stove).) | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 17:22 | history | edited | George Ntoulos | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Adding what I meant with toasting
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| Feb 28, 2025 at 17:11 | comment | added | Joe | there are covers that you can get to cover your food when microwaving to reduce cleanup... and toaster ovens work fine for this if you have an appropriate pan under it to catch drips. I have no idea what your objection to broiling is (oven top heat only, although you might be Australian where they call that grilling so talking about something else), but that's my usual go-to | |
| Feb 28, 2025 at 16:49 | history | asked | George Ntoulos | CC BY-SA 4.0 |