Dan Getz
Since I don't see (EDIT:) hadn't seen any experienced regulars volunteering at the time I nominated, I'm nominating myself to be considered for moderator.
I haven't moderated a site before, aside from votes, flags, and close votes like other ordinary users.
I can't promise a lot of time, but in recent months I've opened the site practically every day, and started participating in Charcoal to help clean abusive, promotional, and scam posts off of Stack Exchange sites. I can promise to spend a little time on ELL mod duties at least once a week, and likely more often.
I'm a native English speaker from the USA, I've been a second-language learner, and I interact in my life with ESL speakers. I've been lurking around this site and others on this network for about a decade.
Please bear with me, as I've never been a mod, so some of my answers might be naive.
1/7a. How would you deal with a large number of arguments/flags in comments when a user's answers are usually valuable?
We need to let people disagree, but a few people's disagreements shouldn't overwhelm other people's questions and answers. If they're just disagreeing over an answer, I might leave it alone, just delete unfriendly or unkind comments, or ask those involved to calm down and consider other perspectives.
If it's someone who won't stop attacking others in comments, on the other hand, they should receive a suspension. I don't think their valuable answers change that, nor do the problems change the value of their answers.
1/7b. How would you deal with a user who produces a steady stream of valuable answers but who argues too much with those posting comments?
We need to let people disagree, but long arguments should be taken to chat. We probably have all had the experience of finding someone "wrong on the internet", but there's not much point trying to get the last word in the comment section on Stack Exchange.
I think it's unfortunate that sometimes people feel so hurt by comments that they lash out. Just recently I commented to try to help someone troubleshoot something, and they got really angry at me for doing that.
I think in most cases there isn't much a mod needs to do. If a user is attacking people in comments, of course, those comments can be deleted, the user asked to stop, and in extreme cases suspended.
- How would you handle a situation where another mod closed/deleted/etc. a question that you feel shouldn’t have been?
I would reach out to them with my concerns and my reasons to reconsider. If we continue to disagree, I expect in almost all cases I would defer to the other mod and the rest of the community.
If I think they made a simple mistake, but they haven't visited the site for a while, I would probably reopen or undelete to fix what looks like a mistake to me.
- AI generated content You have received several flags from users who suspect that an answer (or more than one) by a contributor was generated by AI. To complicate matters even more, Stack Exchange has prohibited moderators from using AI detection tools to determine whether content is human-generated or not. College professors have also argued that GPT detectors are unreliable. Meanwhile, ELL users suspected of copying AI content, continue to produce good content and earn reputation. What do you do?
I've never really used AI detection tools, so not having them doesn't bother me, and I'm not surprised to hear they're unreliable. What does bother me is the idea that mods weren't (aren't?) allowed to use their own good sense, according to that 2023 letter.
Yes, there are a lot of posts which look AI generated to some people, but aren't 100% clear if they are or aren't generated. On the other hand, I've seen many posts on the network which were clearly AI generated, once looked at closely. (However, I personally haven't noticed much on this site.) So, subject to guidance from others in the moderation and community teams, and to the extent that Stack Exchange wishes to allow me to, I intend to
- not take action against users where it's not very, very clear
- not take action against users who disclose it per the current policy
- take action where I see it's very clear:
- sending messages with a goal of including disclosure in the posts
- escalating, only if needed, to deleting posts
- escalating, only if needed, to suspending accounts
- discuss AI handling on Meta as needed and possible
This is not a promise to be prompt or thorough about it.
- Under which circumstances would you, as a moderator, delete an on-topic answer that has attracted one or more upvotes?
An upvote indicates it might not be a bad post, but doesn't mean it isn't. I definitely could delete upvoted posts:
- with undisclosed AI generation
- with spam or scam content or links
- which are part of a violation of the site's terms of use
Personally, I don't like when "answers" answer misread the question and answer a different one. But I don't know if I'd ever mod-delete those that people find useful. It might be me that misunderstood the question!
- This is a site dedicated to helping others learn, and language learners often feel some emotional vulnerability, especially when learning a language that holds some international "prestige". At the same time, the Stack Exchange Q&A format is based around community moderation with downvotes, close votes, and constructive criticism in comments. Do you think we're striking a good balance on this site? Why or why not?
I feel the community moderation comes off as too harsh or frustrating for some new users. But I think some of that is unavoidable—avoiding moderation would not improve the site. Perhaps we need to take the good with the bad, and accept that not everyone will like it. Maybe there are better ways to guide new users instead of throwing more challenges their way. In particular, in some cases I think editing questions might help more than writing comments trying to persuade the new user to do the edit themselves.
I'm not an ESL learner myself, but to me the answers on this site generally seem well written, respectful, and helpful, so I'm happy about that.
I was really hoping someone else would run for moderator and have a good answer to this.
- We get a lot of questions that attract criticism, downvotes, and close votes, for reasons that sound like "they're too simple". (See "Please, everyone ... details. Please!" and "Policy for questions that are entirely answerable with a dictionary".) As a moderator, you will have more actions and tools available to you, and any public actions you take, including comments, will have a visible diamond associated with them. How do you expect to handle these questions, and resulting discussion, differently from as a regular user?
A moderator's close/reopen/delete vote takes effect immediately, so I expect to not vote on any of these which don't very closely match a close reason. The "gray area" ones should go through the whole process with many sets of eyes. I expect I would close some that very clearly should be closed, because our Close vote queue never seems to empty. I don't think a slow close vote queue was intended to be a positive feature.
I think it's important to guide new users to edit their questions, rather than expressing frustration in comments. If the comments start to get unfriendly or unkind, or important comments get buried in a long chatty comment section, I might remove some unnecessary comments or move them to chat.
- Sometimes people post comments on ELL that attempt to answer a question, in whole or in part. How would you handle these comments?
Personally, I think answers should go in the answer box, even if they're short or partial answers. The two biggest reasons for me are:
- Answers can be downvoted.
- Answers are easier to find than comments.
However, this site seems to have a long-established culture of discussing answers in the comments under the question. (I'm sure I've done too much of it myself!) I don't expect I would delete these comments.
I'm open to ideas if anyone wants to discuss on Meta.
- In your opinion, what do moderators do?
Moderators often wear a lot of hats on StackExchange sites. I'm not expecting to do a lot myself, just offering to help out some.
The main one is handling flags. As a regular user, when I see a problem (or what I think might be a problem) that goes beyond just posts I disagree with, and I can't (or shouldn't) do anything about it directly myself, I can flag a mod. Maybe they can't or won't do anything either, but maybe they will. It's a last chance to fix what might be a problem. Handling flags is a required part of the job, so I would do that.
Some mods set the "tone" for their sites, by setting an example in comments and posts, and by curating others' posts. I probably won't be setting any tone here. I don't have personal plans to "fix" the site. If you want to see big changes, that should start as a Meta discussion.
Some mods speak up for the needs of their communities, on Meta and to Stack Exchange staff members. Every once in a while, I post or vote on Metas about issues I see, and would of course continue to do that whether or not I'm a mod.