Timeline for Alpha and Omega. In what sense does the Lord mention them?
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| Jun 8 at 9:52 | history | edited | George F | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 8 at 2:48 | comment | added | George F | @OldeEnglish Tomorrow I will make a chat room for you and me; for now I am done, because I am sleepy. I think we have to make further disscusion about this, cause I think you believe some cases in other way than mine. | |
| Jun 8 at 2:42 | comment | added | Olde English | I did try to read carefully but you didn't write with understanding. If you are not going to read over your texts before posting, how can I be expected to respond appropriately? I had to guess as to what you were trying to say. Anyway we are now being asked if we want to go to "chat", so you better decide if you want anymore of this. Personally, I think we are done here. | |
| Jun 8 at 1:33 | comment | added | George F | @OldeEnglish I think we are saying the same thing in different words. Since we are talking about the Nature of God, and that both the Father and the Son have It, then the Son "represents" the Father, and the corresponding. I did not say that the Holy Spirit has a separate hypostasis; I meant something else (read carefully). The Holy Spirit is not simply the active force of God, but the Father himself, God, expanded. | |
| Jun 8 at 1:24 | comment | added | Olde English | I do not believe that the Son is the Father, or that the Father is the Son. They are two separate spiritual entities but with the same nature. Also, the so called Holy Spirit is not a 3rd spiritual entity/person. If the HS was a personified entity then the HS would have an all important name, just like the Father and Son have. The HS is the "active force" of both. It is the active force, acting through the soul of man that comforts after Jesus' ascension. | |
| Jun 8 at 0:39 | comment | added | George F | @OldeEnglish And we call Him Holy, not because it is a name as a separate hypostase, but because we distinguish Him, as the Spirit of God (it is probably an emphatic designation in the NT). I also have my disagreements with the Orthodox church. But He also functions as a Paracletos (He comforts man and invokes God, i.e. Himself, to man); it is somewhat of a mystery; and the Spirit of the Truth. As hypostase belongs to the Father, because is the very same Nature; as function, perhaps functions somewhat as alone (I am confused about that). | |
| Jun 8 at 0:39 | comment | added | George F | @OldeEnglish If you believe that the Son is the Father, and the Father is the Son, and at the same time they are two separate hypostases (the Son as the image of the Father), and that the Spirit is of both of them, which proceeds from the Father and is sent through the Son (i.e. He is the Father, the Spirit of the Father, the very Nature of the Father), then we agree. | |
| Jun 8 at 0:15 | comment | added | Olde English | That .... One has the Almighty God (JHVH), the "only begotten" son of JHVH (Yehoshua/Jesus) and their active force (Ruach) .... breath. Two spiritual persons (both with divinity), one combined spiritual force. Why complicate it? | |
| Jun 7 at 23:51 | history | edited | George F | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 7 at 23:46 | comment | added | George F | @OldeEnglish What truth? | |
| Jun 7 at 23:33 | comment | added | Olde English | + 1, again. I've got to hand it to you. A (to all intents and purposes) truly "dogmatic" answer, if there ever was one. I'm seeing you in a much more influential, if not professorial light. Very well explicated indeed. I would hold on to your 200 points, if I were you, as I can't see anyone now, or later, even coming close to matching this. You put my answer, albeit to another Q., to shame. If only you could see the largeness of the ultimate truth ..... | |
| Jun 7 at 22:21 | history | answered | George F | CC BY-SA 4.0 |