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| Sep 1, 2021 at 19:42 | comment | added | Sherrie | 48152, I appreciate you coming forward and letting me know why the down vote. Actually I want to thank you for it because it has inspired me to look further into the bema seat and had furthered my understanding on what it means to live onto the Lord. Eph. 6: 5-9 was a key that unlocked this this for me without fear or a legalistic approach to it. Thanks again for your honesty and perception on these things. | |
| Sep 1, 2021 at 11:44 | comment | added | Steve | I DV b/c it is plain wrong. My comment is already there. You can't have a judgement for newly made spirit-life humans. They are given spirit life because they are made holy in Christ - why judge the righteous?? | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 19:30 | comment | added | Sherrie | Thanks Xeno, This helps put things in perspective. What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? They are servants through whom you believed, as the Lord has assigned to each his role. I planted the seed and Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. He who plants and he who waters are one in purpose,and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. 1 cor. 1:5-8 | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 18:00 | comment | added | Xeno | @Sherrie Just in case you didn't know, I upvoted you. I have no idea who downvoted your response. | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 14:26 | comment | added | Sherrie | Those in Christ that are raised in the first resurrection are not judged. It is a bema seat of loss of rewards. It has nothing to do with punishment. If one is faithful in a little the that one can be trusted with much. Martyrs have a special reward . We should not compare ourselves one to another… God will judge each of us individually depending upon the light and faith given each one of us… That is different for everybody as he gives to each a measure of faith. Remember we will be in our glorified bodies and will be pretty happy about that. Nigel, thanks for the up vote. | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 10:52 | comment | added | Steve | This is crazy. Those raised in the 1st Res are given eternal life - they are not judged after being raised!!! | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 8:49 | comment | added | Nigel J | Up-voted +1. I found the Brethren Movement to be the culprits who spread a theory of 'believers not being judged'. It seems to me to be something to do with the worldly way in which the generality of that movement behave, as if a mere profession of religion avoided any kind of judgment. | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 1:08 | comment | added | Sherrie | Xeno, Who will lay a charge against the chosen ones of God? God [is] He that is declaring righteous; Who [is] he that is condemning? Christ [is] He that died, indeed, rather also, was raised up; who is also on the right hand of God—who also interceded for us Rom.8:33 Any Righteous works that are done through us will have been done by God who is at work in us to will and do His good pleasure. Phil.2:13 These things will be rewarded and the things that are done in the flesh will be burned. | |
| Aug 30, 2021 at 23:22 | comment | added | Xeno | @Dave I stand corrected. It is "lawlessness", however we choose to define that, that leads to eternal separation from God. | |
| Aug 30, 2021 at 23:15 | comment | added | Dave | @Xeno you are very active on this forum, and your interpretations are very interesting. Nevertheless when you have statements like “even the slightest infraction of God's Law condemns us to hell.”, you need to realise that they (infractions) are not the reason why anyone will end up there. | |
| Aug 30, 2021 at 23:02 | comment | added | Xeno | While you are absolutely correct that final, ultimate judgment is beyond our current lives of flesh and blood, even the slightest infraction of God's Law condemns us to hell. There could be rewards as you say (and note from 1 Cor. 3:12), but what might those be when our righteous works are described for us in Isaiah 64:6: "All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags" I have had difficulty reconciling just what work will be rewarded other than our persistent, faithful obedience to Christ. +1. | |
| Aug 30, 2021 at 22:39 | history | answered | Sherrie | CC BY-SA 4.0 |