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    It is also worth noting that even the typical Christian translation doesn't mesh with an orthodox Christian understanding of the Trinity, for the Son is never referred to as the Father. To the contrary, whilst in orthodoxy the Son and the Father are the same God - to say that the Son is the Father is considered to be a heresy that was rejected by the early church (Modalism). Commented Dec 16, 2024 at 21:02
  • @RyanPierceWilliams, "apple is red" - "reddy apple, I should say!". Does that mean that an apple is the whole red(ness)? "The Son is the Father" and "the Father is the Son" can't be wrong in all contexts, otherwise we at least need "the Mother", you know. Someone back in history decided that his personal context is the whole world and started typical holy war against local "heretics". And no, I'm not implying by that, that there are no actual heresies. The "a" and a "the" never was the must in every last language in history. p.s. there is also "begotten", seems like we need new decree.. Commented Dec 17, 2024 at 0:44
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    RyanPierceWilliams – I am a Unitarian Christian, holding to the "Arian" position of Angelic Christology which was the orthodox doctrine of the Early Church before the Council of Nicea at 325 AD. Commented Dec 17, 2024 at 4:13
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    @OneGodOneLord, so, imagine if they translated as it is in MT, and pagans who read "Mighty God", would ask "you mean Zeus??", then read "Father of Eternity" — "you mean Kronos??", and so on. I don't pretend to be correct in placing old pagan deities' names, but you've got the idea. Commented Dec 17, 2024 at 4:55
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    @RaySolva The fact that you think God is like a man, requiring a woman to produce sons and daughters, demonstrates your convulted and unbiblical logic. While we can certainly learn what the spiritual father / son relationship is in part by considering the natural father / son relationship - you are way off base if you are insisting they are the same. Do you imagine the Son to be like a Greek Demi-god? And how do you imagine we are made to be sons and daughters of God? Read and understand the following passage: John 8:31-47 Commented Dec 17, 2024 at 19:08