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| Jul 2, 2020 at 7:19 | comment | added | Greg | I do not know where the Soviet estimates were coming, but considering that eg in Hungary (a much small country than Germany) the number of rape victims was around 100 000-200 000ish, those numbers sound a little off. | |
| May 28, 2019 at 14:22 | comment | added | user15620 | Never mind. This looks very relevant | |
| May 28, 2019 at 14:20 | comment | added | user15620 | A wikipedia article on the subject references claims that the numbers were around 10 million. I don't have access to any of the references unfortunately. | |
| May 28, 2019 at 14:11 | comment | added | user15620 | In addition to those issues, you should never present a numerical wild guess to that level of accuracy. | |
| Mar 27, 2018 at 9:39 | comment | added | Evargalo | Besides the flaw with extrapolating, there is a huge statistical bias by mixing number of victims and number of rapes. A given victim would often get raped several times by different soldiers, so the number of rapes in Germany (or Russia) will exceed the umber of victims. In case of Germany, I'm also confused whether your source claims 310.000 victims (190.000+50.000+45.000+15.000+10.000) or 860.000. Maybe a question of time-span. | |
| Mar 27, 2018 at 8:01 | comment | added | Gangnus | I like the idea of extrapolating, but I am afraid, the rules in different countries were too different. Germans photoed themselves at a hangers with women and children. Jews and Gipsies were not living beings for them. And Slavs were as animals. For Soviet soldiers mostly rapes was severely forbidden, except special "free days". Out of these periods, a proved rape meant death punishment. But, if not made obviously, nobody searched. Mostly they used statutory rapes - spread yor legs, or I'll kill your husband/father. Extrapolation across so different situations won't work. | |
| Mar 26, 2018 at 18:10 | comment | added | tj1000 | One simply can't extrapolate theoretical rape levels of German soldiers with any hope of accuracy by looking at what western soldiers did. The situation was different, the culture was different, the attitudes were different. The Russians hated the Germans, and for good reason, while the average western soldier was relatively indifferent towards the German people in general. As with all things history... context is everything. | |
| Mar 26, 2018 at 17:13 | comment | added | SJuan76 | Also, this ignores Nazi racial prejudices against slavs, the fact that combat in Russia lasted way more than combat in Germany, and probably other issues. I think that the differences between the two combat fronts are too different to make assumptions from only two data points. | |
| Mar 26, 2018 at 17:11 | comment | added | SJuan76 | While this is a rather sensible attempt at answering the question, it leaves a lot of uncertainty. The main issue is that you take rapes by British and USA soldiers and assume that the rate of rape by Germans has to be between those values. But the fact that the rate varies so much between British and USA soldiers (2,5 times) tells us that variation may be too much for such an assumption (how do you know that it is not the USA rate the one that goes between the British and the German rates?). | |
| Mar 26, 2018 at 14:19 | comment | added | Gangnus | It is very interesting who downvoted this very interesting answer? And why? +1 from me. | |
| Mar 26, 2018 at 8:46 | comment | added | PhillS | Mea culpa. Apparently I'm to tired to parse things properly this morning. Erroneous content deleted. | |
| Mar 26, 2018 at 7:40 | comment | added | bigbadmouse | @PhillS he points to an estimate by extrapolation; he is very clear about that. | |
| Mar 26, 2018 at 7:27 | comment | added | Semaphore | @PhillS It does - did you read to the very end? It attempts to extrapolate an answer to the question from Allied records. This is not what I would call rigorous scholarship, but it does attempt to answer the question. | |
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| Mar 26, 2018 at 4:21 | comment | added | TheHonRose | "In 1946 [acts of sexual violence] were considered by the Allies not as a crime to be punished, but as a natural side effect of the war." Had attitudes changed so much in 20 years? In WWI, my grandfather's unit, was approaching a village, when the OC warned "There will be women here: if you men have any ideas - " patting his revolver to indicate the consequences. | |
| Mar 25, 2018 at 19:29 | history | edited | user23839 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Mar 25, 2018 at 19:21 | history | answered | user23839 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |