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    Yes, thanks Italian Philosopher - this tactic used by Tempests, called the Rat Scramble was included in the referenced Me 262 Wiki article and cited above in the Question. Appreciate the additional link. Commented Sep 10, 2018 at 16:21
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    yes, after answering I re-read the question in more detail 🐑 -ish. but it's a pretty good book ;-) Commented Sep 10, 2018 at 16:23
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    I may take a look at that book, thanks. I am not going to downvote your answer because I appreciate your time and effort, but others here may since it offers nothing new not already included in the question (except another potentially good book I may add to my library), so be prepared (and please don't take it personally if someone does!) Commented Sep 10, 2018 at 16:26
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    This is not an answer but just a repeat of the same point made in the question: "most 262 kills by Allied aircraft was during takeoff or landing, or on the ground ...". The rat scramble is not an air-to-air kill, it is a landing ambush, and easily foiled by the Germans with flak as soon as they figured it out Commented Sep 10, 2018 at 17:48
  • @PieterGeerkens So, as soon as an OP mentions a possible answer it is off limit to everyone then? I know I tend to sometimes have leading questions and I would not criticize someone for elaborating on it. Anyway this seems like a popular question. A quick Google tempest me 262 kills got me, among others, this: groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.aviation.military/… Keep in mind the flip side of 100 or so air losses you warned against: with such low numbers it's easy to get in the top ranks. Whether the Tempest took the actual top or not I leave for others to say. Commented Sep 10, 2018 at 19:00