Timeline for answer to Does the Torah 'know' about 'quantum mechanics' and 'DNA synthesis'? by Yehosef
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| Jun 8, 2015 at 12:06 | comment | added | bondonk | 'Tamei' is the wrong word. He gives examples like: 'nature, etiquette and entertainment' that are 'painted on' and have no analogs in Judaism | |
| Jun 8, 2015 at 10:58 | comment | added | Yehosef | The point about DNA is that it may not be encoded in a way that is directly extractable. There are not specific instructions to build a nose or arm - DNA creates proteins and these tell cells what to do. Its very complicated. I'm not saying that you'll be able to decode the Torah and find the mp4 of the Titanic, but the ingredients are there. As for R. Tatz, you claimed he said "'Tamei' things are akin to 'someone painting on the blueprint'" - meaning it's not part of the blueprint. I'm pointing out that we have examples of tamei things in the Torah from the Author. | |
| Jun 8, 2015 at 8:56 | comment | added | bondonk | Rabbi Tatz's shiurim are largely based on shiurim he heard from his Rebbe - Rabbi Moshe Shapiro | |
| Jun 8, 2015 at 8:54 | comment | added | bondonk | One can say that the evils mentioned in the Torah are deliberately chosen and have well established purposes and meaning - an understanding of them occupies a vast amount of literature. The yetzer hara and 'evils' are big topics because of the way Hashem chose to create the world. I don't understand your point about DNA | |
| Jun 8, 2015 at 8:19 | comment | added | Yehosef | I don't know the vort or his references - but you see that Amalek and Balek are evil and are in the Torah. The Torah has references to things that are tamei. And I assert that Torah does contain Titanic, but we don't know how to decode it yet. And once we know, we won't care to watch it. But it could be like DNA - it's not that this certain sequences makes a nose or arm, but they create proteins which cause complex processes to happen and those combine to make the nose/arm, etc. Meaning it doesn't directly map but the components are there are I assume could be rerun/rebuilt. | |
| Jun 8, 2015 at 6:56 | comment | added | bondonk | Rabbi Tatz asserts otherwise. 'Tamei' things are akin to 'someone painting on the blueprint' i.e. the Torah does not contain the movie Titanic (for example) | |
| Jun 8, 2015 at 6:13 | comment | added | Yehosef | I didn't say that anything people say as being based in the Torah is true (as I said in my answer.) I just said that everything is in the Torah, including all secular sciences, every movie that was every made, etc. EVERYTHING. It is the DNA of the universe so everything that came out of it was contained in the blueprint. But, we don't have access that level of the Torah now (for the most part.) Similarly, even though we can read our DNA, we do not currently know what will come out. Certain sequences indicate certain traits - but by in large we don't understand it yet. | |
| Jun 8, 2015 at 4:56 | comment | added | bondonk | How do we know that 'Torah' truth is being reflected if anyone can say anything with poetic license, since the Torah never mentions these things. Thats my point. I can say that Einstein's E=mc^2 means that all mass has spiritual energy... he would probably reel in his grave ;) | |
| Jun 7, 2015 at 22:29 | history | edited | Yehosef | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 7, 2015 at 22:22 | history | answered | Yehosef | CC BY-SA 3.0 |