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| Aug 13, 2024 at 18:32 | comment | added | cbeleites | ... compared to typical lengthwise parking situations where more than a full car width of sideways movement is needed. Much more than would be the required contribution of one lane for the emergency vehicle to pass. | |
| Aug 13, 2024 at 18:28 | comment | added | cbeleites | OTOH, 1m lengthwise does allow quite some sideways movement. And while I cannot recall what the official instructions for the holding line were, I'm sure many years back when I took my driver's license we were explicitly told to leave maneuvering space because some sideways movement may be needed not to stop nose to tail to leave emergency vehicles pass - both for intersections and in traffic jam (where this is in addition to forming the emergency lane). As a side note, space before holding line and between cars is easier to judge for the crossing lanes - which looks easy and spacey... | |
| Aug 13, 2024 at 18:24 | comment | added | cbeleites | @Inconspicuousseagull: yes, using the safety zone for maneuvering is a collateral advantage if you like. But it is available in case it is needed. Even if there is a pedestrian crossing, also pedestrians are supposed to help making way for the emergency vehicle. Also, sure it is best and easiest to drive forward to the side, and personally I'd nose my way forward - it's both faster and safer in the described situation where everyone will tend to move forward and sideways and does not expect backward movement. | |
| Aug 12, 2024 at 14:45 | comment | added | Trish | @Inconspicuousseagull "Well" means something about 1 meter in common understanding of drivers (see the photo of the intersection, the black car is about that from the line while the white is like... 60 cm). The green car is about 4, so wastes space but that is not an infraction. | |
| Aug 12, 2024 at 11:22 | comment | added | Inconspicuous seagull | Also, while some intersections indeed have ample space between stopping line and pedestrian crossing, the main intention of this space is not maneuvering room, but to increase visibility of the intersection (head doesn't need to move as much to view the complete intersection) and to provide buffer space so a car that fails to stop in time for the stopping line doesn't drive into the pedestrian crossing. It is a fairly recent design development, and you can still find a lot of intersections where the pedestrian crossing starts right after the stopping line. | |
| Aug 12, 2024 at 11:08 | comment | added | Inconspicuous seagull | "one is supposed to stop well before the holding line". No. The line is named holding line for a reason - it's the line where a driver has to stop their vehicle at the latest. While a driver can indeed stop well before the holding line, there is no rule that supposes them to do so. In practice a lot of drivers stop rather close to the holding line. | |
| Aug 12, 2024 at 5:19 | comment | added | Philipp | Translations are okay, no need to correct them. | |
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