Wikitech-l March 2010

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Database dumps
by Byrial Jensen 17 Apr '25

17 Apr '25

Until some weeks ago http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html used to show 4 dumps in progress at the same time. That meant that new database dumps normally was available within about 3 weeks for all databases except for enwiki and maybe dewiki where the dump process due to size took longer time. However the 4 dumps processes at one time become 3 some weeks ago. And after massive failures at June 4, only one dump has been in progress at the same time. So at the current speed it will take several months to come thru all dumps. Is it possible to speed up the process again using several dump processes at the same time? Thank you, Byrial

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User-Agent:
by Domas Mituzas 17 Apr '25

17 Apr '25

Hi! from now on specific per-bot/per-software/per-client User-Agent header is mandatory for contacting Wikimedia sites. Domas

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EBNF grammar project status?
by Steve Bennett 01 Apr '25

01 Apr '25

What's the status of the project to create a grammar for Wikitext in EBNF? There are two pages: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitext_Metasyntax http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec Nothing seems to have happened since January this year. Also the comments on the latter page seem to indicate a lack of clear goal: is this just a fun project, is it to improve the existing parser, or is it to facilititate a new parser? It's obviously a lot of work, so it needs to be of clear benefit. Brion requested the grammar IIRC (and there's a comment to that effect at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7 ), so I'm wondering what became of it. Is there still a goal of replacing the parser? Or is there some alternative plan? Steve

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MediaWiki to Latex Converter
by Hugo Vincent 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Hi everyone, I recently set up a MediaWiki (http://server.bluewatersys.com/w90n740/) and I need to extra the content from it and convert it into LaTeX syntax for printed documentation. I have googled for a suitable OSS solution but nothing was apparent. I would prefer a script written in Python, but any recommendations would be very welcome. Do you know of anything suitable? Kind Regards, Hugo Vincent, Bluewater Systems.

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Backups
by Eugene 07 Nov '10

07 Nov '10

Hi everyone, Are there any updates regarding Wikipedia's backup systems? I've created a bug to track this at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18255. Cheers, Eugene

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serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live
by Glanthor 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

Hi! I've read on the techblog that the new UI go live in April. I have some questions: 1) What version? Acai, babaco, citron? 2) How/where could a wiki customize the special character insert menu, and the inserted strings? And the embed file (picture) button inserts this: "[[Example.jpg]]", without any "File:" or "Image:"! 3) The search and replace button is available in firefox, but does not appear at all in opera. Why? 4) Currently the new navigable TOC does not work on FF/Opera at all (I've tried those). Not too early for live deployment? Regards, Akos Szabo (Glanthor Reviol)

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implementing the Interlanguage extension
by Amir E. Aharoni 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

Sorry about bugging the list about it, but can anyone please explain the reason for not enabling the Interlanguage extension? See bug 15607 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607 I believe that enabling it will be very beneficial for many projects and many people expressed their support of it. I am not saying that there are no reasons to not enable it; maybe there is a good reason, but i don't understand it. I also understand that there are many other unsolved bugs, but this one seems to have a ready and rather simple solution. I am only sending it to raise the problem. If you know the answer, you may comment at the bug page. Thanks in advance. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni heb: http://haharoni.wordpress.com | eng: http://aharoni.wordpress.com cat: http://aprenent.wordpress.com | rus: http://amire80.livejournal.com "We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace." - T. Moore

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Unicode equivalence
by Praveen Prakash 29 May '10

29 May '10

Hi, I am from Malayalam Wikipedia (ml.wikipedia - user:Praveenp), and my language is Malayalam. Consider our one big problem. After the release of Unicode 5.1.0, there are two kind of encoding for some characters of Malayalam alphabet (because of reverse compatibility). This cause serious problems in linking, searching etc in mediawiki software. Currently Windows 7 is the only operating system which supports Unicode 5.1.0. (? according to my knowledge), but lot of third-party tools for writing and reading Malayalam supports new version. And now large quantity of data in Wikimedia projects are in new version. It is not possible to link, or search titles encoded in pre-Unicode 5.1.0 from Unicode 5.1.0 or vice versa. Currently one of our namespace ???????? (Category) also has one such character, so it is possible to write ???????? as ?????? which renders same as first but different in encoding. It causes problem in categorization also. Is it possible to put some unicode equivalence <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_equivalence> in mediawiki software? We need urgent help. Pls check http://unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/#Malayalam_Chillu_Characters also *Visual * *Representation in 5.0 and Prior* *Preferred 5.1 Representation* 1 CHILLU_NN.png 0D23, 0D4D, 200D 0D7A CHILLU_N.png 0D28, 0D4D, 200D 0D7B 3 CHILLU_RR.png 0D30, 0D4D, 200D 0D7C 4 CHILLU_L.png 0D32, 0D4D, 200D 0D7D 5 CHILLU_LL.png 0D33, 0D4D, 200D 0D7E * *Thanks Wikipedia Affiliate Button <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Support_Wikipedia/en>

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Mailing list owner
by Tim Starling 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

I've made myself mailing list owner of mediawiki-l and wikitech-l temporarily, since I don't think Brion is interested in moderating either of them anymore. But it's a relatively simple task, and it seems to me that it could be done by someone with more spare time and less awesome hacking skills ;) The tasks are: * Manage the mailman configuration for these two lists. * Put members on moderation if they post inappropriate content. * Deal with people who send administrative requests to the list or to *-owner@lists. You can also expect to get some forwarded spam. Anyone interested? -- Tim Starling

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2010-03-11 01:10:08: enwiki Checksumming pages-meta-history.xml.bz2 :D
by Tomasz Finc 08 Apr '10

08 Apr '10

New full history en wiki snapshot is hot off the presses! It's currently being checksummed which will take a while for 280GB+ of compressed data but for those brave souls willing to test please grab it from http://download.wikipedia.org/enwiki/20100130/enwiki-20100130-pages-meta-hi… and give us feedback about its quality. This run took just over a month and gained a huge speed up after Tims work on re-compressing ES. If we see no hiccups with this data snapshot, I'll start mirroring it to other locations (internet archive, amazon public data sets, etc). For those not familiar, the last successful run that we've seen of this data goes all the way back to 2008-10-03. That's over 1.5 years of people waiting to get access to these data bits. I'm excited to say that we seem to have it :) --tomasz

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