You are not logged in. Your edit will be placed in a queue until it is peer reviewed.
We welcome edits that make the post easier to understand and more valuable for readers. Because community members review edits, please try to make the post substantially better than how you found it, for example, by fixing grammar or adding additional resources and hyperlinks.
-
9$\begingroup$ Wait, the one that's above the real line is $i$, and the one below is $-i$, right? ;) $\endgroup$Vladimir Reshetnikov– Vladimir Reshetnikov2013-08-16 01:26:19 +00:00Commented Aug 16, 2013 at 1:26
-
15$\begingroup$ If you construct $\mathbb{C}$ as $\mathbb{R}^2$ with product $(a,b)\cdot (c,d):=(ac-bd,bc+ad)$, then $i:=(0,1)$ is a standard definition. Also if you construct $\mathbb{C}$ as $\mathbb{R}[x]/(x^2+1)$ you have a standard choice: $i:=x\mathrm{mod}(x^2+1)$. $\endgroup$Qfwfq– Qfwfq2013-10-08 23:13:12 +00:00Commented Oct 8, 2013 at 23:13
-
5$\begingroup$ Another fine equivalence to AC: every set has a unique cardinality. This and your first example are the main things that convince me AC is not so strange. $\endgroup$Neil Toronto– Neil Toronto2013-10-10 14:59:31 +00:00Commented Oct 10, 2013 at 14:59
-
18$\begingroup$ @NeilToronto: “every set has a unique cardinality” can be phrased in a lot of different ways, plenty of which are provable without choice (e.g.: there is a class $\mathbf{Card}$ and a “cardinality” map $V \to \mathbf{Card}$, such that sets have the same cardinality iff they are isomorphic). The only versions of the statement I know that are equivalent to AC are ones which insist that each cardinality should be represented by some ordinal — but this is a very thinly veiled version of the well-ordering principle, and I think not at all so intuitively obvious. $\endgroup$Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine2013-10-10 17:21:29 +00:00Commented Oct 10, 2013 at 17:21
-
5$\begingroup$ It isn't natural to believe that a product of nonempty sets is nonempty once you generalize a bit: an $I$-indexed family of sets $\{ J_i \}_{i\in I}$ is the same as an epimorphism $J \to I$, $J = \sum_{i\in I} J_i$. An element of a product of this family is the same as a section of this epimorphism --- and of course epimorphisms in categories can have no sections! This is true even in categories that are a model of (extensional) set theory, i.e. in toposes like a category of sheaves of sets on a space. E.g. for any nontrivial manifold $X$ its $Sh(X)$ will not satisfy AC. $\endgroup$Anton Fetisov– Anton Fetisov2018-01-23 18:22:22 +00:00Commented Jan 23, 2018 at 18:22
|
Show 2 more comments
How to Edit
- Correct minor typos or mistakes
- Clarify meaning without changing it
- Add related resources or links
- Always respect the author’s intent
- Don’t use edits to reply to the author
How to Format
-
create code fences with backticks ` or tildes ~
```
like so
``` -
add language identifier to highlight code
```python
def function(foo):
print(foo)
``` - put returns between paragraphs
- for linebreak add 2 spaces at end
- _italic_ or **bold**
- quote by placing > at start of line
- to make links (use https whenever possible)
<https://example.com>[example](https://example.com)<a href="https://example.com">example</a>
- MathJax equations
$\sin^2 \theta$
How to Tag
A tag is a keyword or label that categorizes your question with other, similar questions. Choose one or more (up to 5) tags that will help answerers to find and interpret your question.
- complete the sentence: my question is about...
- use tags that describe things or concepts that are essential, not incidental to your question
- favor using existing popular tags
- read the descriptions that appear below the tag
If your question is primarily about a topic for which you can't find a tag:
- combine multiple words into single-words with hyphens (e.g. ag.algebraic-geometry), up to a maximum of 35 characters
- creating new tags is a privilege; if you can't yet create a tag you need, then post this question without it, then ask the community to create it for you