A note before you listen: This conversation is not an invitation to consume everything indiscriminately. Discernment is the work of the Holy Spirit, not the suspension of wisdom. Our hope is to practice the kind of curiosity that crosses cultural boundaries for the sake of love and understanding, while honoring the divine boundaries God gives for our flourishing. Jesus crossed borders to meet people, never to compromise holiness. We hope this conversation helps us do the same.

There are entire worlds hidden in plain sight that our eyes haven’t been trained to look.

Sometimes those worlds are found in the margins of Scripture.

Sometimes they’re found in the people our systems overlook.

And other times...

they’re hiding inside a three-minute reggaeton song.

Growing up in a strict Cuban Catholic home, this genre of music wasn’t allowed. It certainly wasn’t something we would have analyzed around the dinner table. It belonged to a category: worldly, shallow, disposable.

Yet as I grew older, hip-hop, R&B, and reggaeton often gave language to experiences and injustices I had witnessed but couldn’t yet name. They held stories of poverty, migration, racial identity, longing, grief, and hope. More often than not, sharing a lyric or reflecting on a song earned me labels like rebellious, Jezebel, and perdida.

And for many years, I internalized that identity. Often feeling fractured, too secular for the sacred, and too sacred for the secular.

Jesus met me in this fracture—this in-between place.

Looking back, I wonder if what unsettled people wasn’t the music itself, but the audacity that God might be at work in places they had decided He couldn’t be.

Spending years studying poetry, narrative, and close reading, and earning a degree in English Literature, I’ve found myself asking different questions. At the same time, the Holy Spirit had been at work training my spiritual eyes to see myself, and others, different, too.

What if we’ve confused discernment with dismissal? Curiosity with compromise?

What if learning to pay attention, even in discomfort, is itself a spiritual discipline?

That question sits at the heart of my latest conversation on Meet At The Well with writer, editor, and literary scholar, Mara Eller.

Yes, we talk about Bad Bunny.

And at the same time, we’re talking about attention and theological imagination.

We talk about slowing down long enough to ask what art is doing before deciding whether it belongs in the discard pile.

Mara reads Bad Bunny’s work the way a literary scholar approaches a poem—not to excuse everything the artist says or does, but to understand what his work reveals about the human condition. She pays attention to longing, identity, race, masculinity, home, power, and the ache beneath the lyrics.

Whether you’re familiar with Bad Bunny or pop music, the deeper question is this:

That question takes me back to John 4.

The road through Samaria was one many Jews preferred to avoid. History, prejudice, and inherited assumptions had already determined what kind of people lived there and whether they were worth engaging.

Jesus walks a different road.

He doesn’t affirm everything about Samaritan belief.

Neither does He avoid the conversation altogether.

He crosses the boundary.

He asks for a drink.

He listens.

He engages.

He speaks truth tenderly.

And in doing so, He transforms not only one woman’s life, but an entire community.

Jesus’ longest recorded conversation with any individual in the Gospels happens with someone many would have dismissed before ever sitting down beside her.

Jesus crossed cultural boundaries to encounter people while remaining wholly faithful to the Father. At Meet At The Well, that’s the posture we’re pursuing: not crossing divine boundaries meant for our protection, but crossing the man-made barriers that keep us from seeing our neighbors with the dignity and compassion of Christ.

Perhaps faithful reading works much the same way.

Not every piece of art deserves our admiration, but every act of careful attention forms us.

It teaches us to distinguish rather than stereotype.

To ask questions before making judgement.

To recognize that stories often carry truth long before people have theological language to explain what they’re experiencing.

At Meet At The Well, we want to break barriers, not people.

That requires more than having the right answers.

It requires learning how to read—Scripture, culture, our neighbors, and even ourselves—with humility.

Curiosity without discernment can become compromise, but discernment without curiosity can become fear.

The Holy Spirit forms both.

Jesus crossed into Samaria, spoke with a Samaritan woman, and revealed Himself as Messiah—without ever compromising truth.

As followers of Christ, we don’t have to fear culture to engage it faithfully.

In fact, one of the most countercultural spiritual practices available to us may be slowing down long enough to notice what everyone else has rushed past.

Because every human being bears the image of God.

And image-bearers have always made art to tell the truth about what hurts.

Perhaps the question isn’t whether something is sacred or secular.

Perhaps the better question is:

Have we learned how to read like Jesus?

If that question stirs your curiosity, I’d love to invite you to meet Mara and I at the well.

I have a feeling you’ll leave listening a little more closely—to music, to your neighbors, and perhaps even to Scripture itself.

Watch the Episode:

Episode Highlights

1. Why Bad Bunny’s lyrics deserve to be read as literature—not merely consumed as entertainment.

2. How poetry helps us name what prose often cannot.

3. The theological imagination hidden within contemporary culture.

4. What close reading teaches us about curiosity, discernment, and empathy.

5. Why Christians don’t have to fear culture to engage it faithfully.

6. How stories become bridges toward understanding rather than battlegrounds for certainty.

7. Pop music as modern poetry and cultural critique.

Mara Eller is a writer, teacher, editor, and literary scholar whose work helps writers cultivate self-acceptance, wrestle honestly with difficult questions, and discover beauty amid the ashes of a broken world. She believes stories don’t merely entertain us—they shape us. The stories we inherit and the stories we tell ourselves influence how we see our neighbors, our own souls, and even God.

I encourage you to spend time with Mara’s work. You can find her thoughtful essays on Substack, explore her literary analyses and writing on her website, and follow her reflections on Instagram, where she continues inviting readers to see the world—and themselves—with greater curiosity, courage, and compassion.

From the well,

Mariana

There is a version of me from four years ago that would have measured this season differently.

She would have counted miles traveled.

Papers submitted.

Podcasts postponed.

Emails answered.

Deadlines met despite impossible circumstances.

She would have called survival faithfulness.

Maybe she wouldn’t have been wrong.

But grief has a strange way of dismantling the rulers we use to measure a life.

It ushers in different questions.

Moves us from What did you accomplish?

to Who are you becoming?

June tested everything I thought I knew about presence, community, art, and discipleship.

I entered my birthday month ready to learn, create, and teach others how to remain present in that uncomfortable place called tension.

Instead, June became the living classroom where I would learn, create, and teach from that very place.

My husband and I spent most of the month traveling north and then back south across many states in our car with our youngest playing “Wizard Wheezes” on repeat while our pup, Lulu, searched for new crevices in between us to curl up and sleep.

It’s familiar to think of home as a place, yet, this extended time away reminded me that home is wherever Christ is already waiting.

A seminary classroom outside Chicago where I experienced the embodied Church.

An ICU unit in a Minnesota hospital where theology became flesh.

Long stretches of interstate.

Hotel rooms.

Communion tables.

Borrowed spaces filled with borrowed time.

A room full of artists in South Carolina, eager to learn that faithful art can carry grief without trying to solve it.

At first they felt like separate stories.

As I write, I see they are one.

Each teaching me the same lesson.

Where I Experienced the Church

I arrived at Northern Seminary the first week of June excited for my annual week-long intensive: long lectures, rich conversations, communal worship, stacks of books, and the ordinary work of becoming.

Joyful moments, including lunch with old and new friends who somehow make theology feel like home.

A pilgrimage through Anderson’s Bookshop, where the same soft-spoken bookseller wraps my seminary professor’s carefully curated gift—a custom that marks the end of each intensive together.

Meeting fellow scholars, pastors, and faith leaders whose lives have expanded my imagination for God’s Kingdom.

Visiting community ministries pursuing restorative justice while embodying the tension of reconciliation.

I expected to learn.

I did not expect personal tragedy to become part of the curriculum.

Somewhere between theological discussions and worship, my phone rang.

My little sister had suffered a catastrophic stroke.

That news in itself was difficult to navigate, but we had years of estrangement due to trauma, addiction, and dysfunctional generational patterns that left none innocent in its wake.

The next few moments were a mix of emotions and overwhelm, with my oldest’s words on the other line calling me out of fear.

Shock has a way of softening the edges of memory, but I’ll never forget what happened next.

Hands on my shoulders.

Hands reaching for mine.

I remember my seminary colleagues gathering around me before anyone knew what to say.

I remember prayers spoken through tears.

I remember voices singing over me while I wept in the middle of a classroom.

For years, I have studied the Church.

I’ve written papers about it.

Read theologians who tried to describe it.

Learned the Greek words.

Debated its practices.

Thought deeply about ecclesiology.

That afternoon, I experienced it.

No one rushed to explain away suffering.

No one reached for polished answers.

No one tried to rescue me from lament.

They simply refused to let me grieve alone.

There are moments when the Church ceases to be an institution or an abstract doctrine to debate, and becomes what it has always been meant to be: a body.

A people.

The hands and feet of Christ.

That afternoon, the Church looked like people willing to be uncomfortable because love asked them to remain.

Long before I reached Minnesota, Christ had already begun holding me through His body.

Only later would I realize how much I would need that gift.

Because I was about to begin the longest drive of my life.

Not in miles.

In surrender.

The Long Road North

The drive north became its own kind of monastery.

Somewhere between Illinois and Minnesota, Khaled and I learned that grief travels at sixty-five miles an hour too.

Just hours earlier, I had been surrounded by classmates singing over me, reminding me that Christ sees in the darkness.

Now the road stretched out before us.

Cornfields.

Golden hour.

Rest stops where Someday by Nickelback played softly through crackly speakers and tears came without permission.

Miles disappearing beneath our tires.

The world outside the windshield carried on as if nothing had happened.

Inside our car, everything had.

The interstate became both office and sanctuary.

Somewhere across states, I finished seminary essays.

Answered work emails.

Joined therapy appointments from the passenger seat.

Supported one of our adult children through unimaginable circumstances.

Advocated for my sister’s care over the phone.

Prayed.

Questioned everything.

Wept.

Grief has little respect for calendars; or carefully crafted plans.

It arrives, then asks you to keep putting one foot in front of the other.

One mile.

One phone call.

One breath at a time.

As the sun disappeared, I found myself thinking about theology.

The incarnation.

The cross.

Hope.

Words I had underlined.

Conversations that had left me with better questions than answers.

None of it felt less true, but all of it felt heavier.

More costly.

Theology had moved from my bookshelf into the passenger seat.

It wasn’t asking me to explain suffering or make sense of the horrors of this world.

It was asking whether I believed Christ was still present within it.

For years, I imagined faith as having the right answers.

This journey exposed what had been growing beneath my writing all along.

Perhaps faith was not certainty, but willingness to remain while it’s stretched beyond recognition.

To remain with God when you are met with silence.

To remain with another when there is nothing left to say.

To remain present when the promise of comfort tells you to run.

By the time we reached Minnesota, exhaustion had unearthed every fear I had tried to keep buried.

I hadn’t seen my sister in four years.

And before that, it had been years again.

Our relationship held more grief than either of us knew how to carry.

The complicated ache of hoping someone survives long enough to become who you always knew they could be.

None of that mattered when I walked into her room.

When she recognized my voice and opened her eyes, time folded in on itself.

She wasn’t forty.

She was my little sister again.

The girl with curious brown eyes.

The smile that revealed the tiniest teeth.

Her short legs swinging beneath a classroom chair in shiny black Mary Janes.

I remembered her first picture day and the panic of not being able to find her.

I remembered running through the school, convinced she was gone.

Then one of the teachers gently pointed across the cafeteria.

There she was.

Perfectly content.

Eating a peanut butter sandwich while her little shoes swung several inches above the floor.

I remember the relief.

And I remember, though I couldn’t have named it then, the first quiet fear of losing her.

It would not be the last.

Standing beside her hospital bed, I thought about all the prayers I had prayed over the years.

The ones whispered in hope.

The ones cried through disappointment.

The ones that would not be answered the way I had imagined.

When I held her as she took her final breath, I wasn’t thinking about theological arguments.

I was holding my sister.

And in the hours that followed, I discovered something theology has always claimed but suffering insists upon proving.

Our deepest beliefs are never merely learned.

They are embodied.

The incarnation refuses to let theology remain abstract.

God does not love us from a distance.

He enters our grief.

He stays.

Looking back now, I wonder if this is what formation has always meant.

Not collecting better ideas about God.

But discovering His presence in places I never wanted to go.

The road north did not answer my prayers the way I had hoped.

It taught me something I would not fully understand until a few days later, standing in a room full of artists.

The Well Between Us

Five days later, we found ourselves in Greenville, South Carolina.

Even now, that sentence feels impossible.

Who goes from witnessing her little sister’s final breath to photographing a conference and teaching a room full of artists and writers?

The honest answer is that I don’t know.

I only know that sometimes obedience doesn’t wait until we feel ready.

Cultivate’s theme this year was Rooted.

By every external measure, I felt anything but.

Yet from the moment we arrived, I was met not with expectations, but with tender welcome.

Our ten-year-old wandered freely between conversations, a camera in his hands, documenting the weekend through curious eyes. He made art. Wrote poems. Laughed with adults who treated him as though he belonged there.

Watching a community make room for my family while my own heart was breaking felt like another expression of the Kingdom of God.

Throughout the weekend, one invitation surfaced again and again through different voices.

reminded us,

“Your art is not about you.”

challenged us,

“The calling of the Christian artist is adorning the dark.”

invited us to recover the lost art of attention, reminding us that before artists make beautiful things, they must first learn to truly see. and invited us to delight in place and the power of living up to our creation.

And everywhere we turned, the same refrain echoed through conversations, keynotes, prayers, and shared meals:

Move at the speed of love.

Those words landed differently.

Love is slower than performance.

Slower than certainty.

Love lingers beside hospital beds.

Love sings over grieving classmates.

Love drives through the night.

Love notices the child quietly creating in the corner.

Love is slow enough to pay attention.

When it came time for my breakout session, The Well Between Us: Living and Creating in the Tension, I found myself teaching words I had only just begun to understand.

John 4 has become one of the great teachers of my life.

Again and again, I return to Jesus meeting the Samaritan woman—not because He solved her life in a single conversation, but because He remained.

Near the end of our session, I invited my students to pair up.

The exercise sounded deceptively simple.

Share one question you’re carrying that doesn’t have an easy answer.

The other person may only ask follow-up questions.

No advice.

No fixing.

No teaching.

Only curiosity.

Only presence.

The room grew quiet.

Some conversations stretched into long silences.

Others dissolved into tears.

No one rushed to rescue another from their questions.

Instead, they stayed.

Later, they shared how uncomfortable it felt not to offer solutions.

I understood.

Only days earlier, I had stood beside my sister’s hospital bed discovering that presence is often the only gift love has left to give.

I didn’t realize at the time that God had been preparing me for Minnesota.

Or perhaps He had been preparing Minnesota for me.

Maybe, both are true.

Love rarely begins by solving.

Love begins by staying.

And perhaps that is what faithful art is meant to do as well.

Not explain away suffering.

Not offer polished conclusions.

But accompany one another long enough for hope to become believable again.

Becoming a Witness

As I looked around Cultivate, I realized every person in that room had arrived carrying something invisible.

Joy and disappointment.

Birth and burial.

Hope and sickness.

Deferred dreams still unfolding.

Prayers still unanswered.

Some burdens had names.

Others had been hidden so long they had become part of the person’s posture.

None of us needed someone to explain our stories away.

We needed companions willing to remain.

Only then did I begin to see the thread God had been weaving through June.

At Northern, I was held.

In Minnesota, I held my sister as she took her final breath, and I held our children.

At Cultivate, I witnessed artists, writers, and creatives learn how to hold one another’s unanswered questions.

Being held.

Holding another.

Learning, at the speed of love, how Christ holds us all.

A living classroom of what the Church has always been.

Not a people with all the answers.

A people who refuse to leave one another alone in the questions.

Loss has reordered what deserves my gaze.

It has exposed the illusion that vocation is primarily about accomplishing more, producing more, or becoming more visible.

Instead, it has invited me to become more human.

More interruptible.

More attentive.

More available to God and to the people He places before me.

When I look back on June, I don’t first remember the miles we drove or the work that somehow still got done.

I remember hands.

Hands clasped around my sister’s as I whispered goodbye.

Hands reaching across tables, offering bread and the peace of Christ.

Hands creating beauty while hearts quietly carried sorrow.

Hands holding the weight of His children finally being seen.

Noticing, one of the holiest forms of love we have left in a distracted world.

And this is why I keep writing.

Why Thorns & Honey has become the story I cannot stop telling.

Again and again, Scripture entrusts God’s story to wounded people.

The Samaritan woman.

Hagar.

Mary Magdalene.

Thomas.

People who encountered God in the middle of their pain and unanswered questions, and left held.

Exile is not the end of the story.

Witness is not born from certainty.

It is born from remaining present long enough for resurrection to surprise us.

As July begins, I find myself resisting the urge to rush into whatever comes next.

There are poems waiting to be written.

A thesis slowly taking shape.

Emerging writers to encourage.

Conversations to complete the first season of Meet At The Well.

A little boy who deserves long afternoons of adventure.

A husband who has quietly carried me through one of the hardest months of our marriage.

A home that has waited patiently for us to return.

And a grieving heart that deserves gentleness.

I suspect God will continue asking the same question He has been asking humanity since the garden.

“Where are you?”

My answer is getting bolder.

Here.

Still here.

Held by grace.

Learning to hold others.

Learning to move at the speed of love.

And, by grace, becoming a witness.

Author’s Note

This essay exists because so many people chose to stay.

To the countless hands that held us this past month—friends, family, classmates, colleagues, neighbors, medical professionals and strangers—you reminded us that the Body of Christ is most beautiful when it chooses to remain. Thank you for helping carry what we could not carry alone.

From the well,

Mariana

An ESL learner turned English Literature graduate, Mariana explores faith, healing, and becoming through biblical literature and story. She is currently pursuing a Master of Arts in Theology with an emphasis in Women and Ministry, and is working on her first poetry collection, Thorns & Honey (forthcoming Spring 2027).

An Invitation to Meet In Person

This summer, I’ll be gathering with a community of writers, artists, and thoughtful voices at Cultivate 2026 in Greenville (June 19–21), and I would love for you to join me.

If you’ve found yourself drawn to the kinds of conversations we hold here—honest, nuanced, rooted in faith but open to the hard middle—this space will feel like coming to the table in real life.

We’ll be joined by voices like , (of The Breath and the Clay and Makers and Mystics Podcast), of , alongside communities like and — , , , , , , and so many others shaping thoughtful, creative, and faithful work in the world.

I’ll also be there, hosting conversations rooted in Meet At The Well—creating space for the kinds of encounters we talk about here.

There are fewer than 30 tickets remaining.

If this resonates, I’d love for you to be part of it:

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When Faith Feels Unrecognizable

For many of us, the faith we inherited no longer feels like the faith we recognize.

What once felt like good news has, at times, been entangled with power, fear, and a kind of certainty that leaves little room for others to belong.

And if you’re anything like me—or like many of you who gather here at Meet At The Well—you might be asking:

How did we get here?
And how do we stay rooted in Jesus without losing each other?

Recently, I had a conversation on the podcast with historian, theologian, and author of Reality in Ruins, Dr. , that helped name what many of us have been sensing—but didn’t quite have language for.

Because naming something is not the same as tearing it down.

Sometimes, it’s the first step toward healing it.

When Stories Shape What We Believe

In our conversation, we explore how storytelling shapes belief—how the stories we inherit, repeat, and protect can either open us toward truth… or close us off from it.

We talk about:

• why certainty can feel so compelling (especially in uncertain times)

• how faith can get tangled with identity, politics, and fear

• what it costs to hold onto belief—and what it costs to question it

• and how we might begin to move toward a more honest, grounded, and human faith… into the great unknowing.

The Cost of Living in the “Hard Middle”

I know conversations like this can feel heavy.

Especially if you’ve:

• lost relationships over political or theological differences

• felt disoriented by what’s being said or done in the name of Jesus

• struggled to reconcile the love of Christ with the exclusion you’ve witnessed

• or found yourself somewhere in the “hard middle”—not fully at home anywhere

If that’s you, you’re not alone.

Naming Without Abandoning

There has also been critique around this kind of work—suggesting that naming these realities is somehow an attack on evangelicals.

But I want to say this with care, especially as someone who was formed in the outskirts of these spaces:

In many of these communities, naming dysfunction is often experienced as betrayal.

And that makes conversations like this costly.

And yet—

naming a problem is not the same as abandoning a people.

In fact, it can be an act of love.

Because you don’t name what’s broken if you don’t still believe healing is possible.

Healing make look a lot more like bringing uncertainty back to the table.

A Different Way Forward

At Meet At The Well, we’re not here to draw harder lines.

We’re here to break barriers, not people.

To make space for:

• honest questions

• complicated stories

• and a faith that doesn’t require certainty to remain rooted in Christ

A faith that can sit at the table with difference.
A faith that resists the urge to reduce people to categories.
A faith that still believes transformation is possible—on all sides.

If you’re trying to make sense of all of this…
If you’re holding both grief and hope…
If you’re learning to follow Jesus without needing to have everything figured out—

This conversation is for you.

Watch the Episode

Meet At The Well — featuring Dr. Jared Stacy

Episode Highlights

• Why conspiracy theories function more like stories than arguments

• How identity and belonging shape belief

• What “disreality” means and why it matters

• The cost of leaving deeply held beliefs

• Why truth must be encountered, not enforced

• How the Church can recover discernment in a fragmented world

• The invitation to live faithfully in uncertainty

About Dr. Jared Stacy & Reality in Ruins

Dr. Jared Stacy is a theologian, ethicist, and former evangelical pastor. He received his Ph.D. in moral and practical theology from the University of Aberdeen in Scotland. His work focuses on the intersection of theology, politics, extremism, and conspiracy theory within American evangelicalism.

His book, Reality in Ruins: How Conspiracy Theory Became an American Evangelical Crisis, examines how conspiracy thinking has shaped modern evangelical identity—and how it has contributed to a fractured sense of truth, community, and witness.

His work has been featured in Time, NPR, NBC News, the BBC, and .

Book Giveaway + Invitation to the Conversation

I have one extra copy of Reality in Ruins by Dr. Jared Stacy—and I’d love to place it in the hands of someone who wants to sit with this conversation more deeply.

Not to win an argument.
Not to prove a point.
But to stay at the table a little longer.

To enter:

1. Listen to the latest episode of Meet At The Well

2. Rate the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify

3. Leave a comment below sharing:

   • what challenged you

   • what gave you a new perspective

   • or what you’re still wrestling with

I’ll choose one winner and send you a copy.

Giveaway closes: May 10th, 2026
Winner announced: May 11, 2026

Final Thought

Conspiracy thinking promises secret knowledge—
a way to separate insiders from outsiders.

But the Gospel tells a different story.

As Jared reminds us, truth is slow. It is weird.

It is received, rather than possessed.

It’s Someone we encounter.

And that encounter doesn’t draw harder lines.

It draws us back to the well—
where we are known,
and still invited to become.

Let’s keep the conversation going—together.

From the well,

Mariana

“…for, between the Christianity of this land, and the Christianity of Christ, I recognize the widest possible difference—so wide, that to receive the one as good, pure, and holy, is of necessity to reject the other as bad, corrupt, and wicked. To be the friend of the one, is of necessity to be the enemy of the other…I can see no reason, but the most dec…

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Some conversations feel less like interviews and more like sitting across from someone who understands that life is both fragile and holy.

This was one of those conversations.

In today’s episode of Meet At The Well, I’m joined by poet, author, and spoken word artist, — whose writing has quietly found its way into hospital rooms, late nights, prayer journals, and the in-between spaces so many of us know well.

Spaces like mine.

Before Tanner and I ever sat down for a conversation, his poetry books were already scattered around our home. In my teen’s room. In my child’s little library. Resting beside my favorite reading chair.

On many nights, my teen would rush down the stairs, holding a book, eager to share a line that helped her feel seen. Met. Understood. Right where she was.

Through some painful seasons, Tanner’s words have brought our family a sense of relief and, in unexpected ways, unity. For that, I am deeply grateful.

Tanner and I met through the The Way Back to Ourselves community, founded by our dear friend, —a space for writers, seekers, and storytellers. We were also both part of the Cultivate 2025 Retreat, where Tanner served as a keynote speaker and I had the honor of leading two breakout sessions as a speaker and theologian.

One of my favorite moments?

My teen was able to join virtually—and meet one of her favorite poets.

Sometimes the most meaningful conversations don’t begin at microphones.

They begin on living room floors.
In dog-eared pages.
In quiet moments when words become companions.

That history made this conversation feel less like an interview and more like two wounded healers sitting across from one another during sobremesa — that sacred lingering after a meal where stories deepen and no one is in a hurry.

Tanner and I talk about hope — not as a slogan or a spiritual bypass, but as a force.
A force that holds.
A force that stays.

During our conversation, Tanner shares,

Hope is fierce, but not forceful.

That line has stayed with me.

We also talk about writing — and how it doesn’t always fix things but it can name them.
And sometimes naming is the first mercy.

Tanner has a way of naming what we’re carrying without rushing us toward resolution.
His poetry doesn’t try to rescue suffering.
It refuses to abandon us inside it.

That kind of writing is rare.
And necessary.

In this episode, we explore:

• Why writing is a way of meeting people where they are

• How grief can shape both tenderness and resilience

• What hope looks like when life is hard and imperfect

• The sacredness of slowing down and paying attention

• Why presence and listening are forms of love

• What it really means to be a writer (and the myth of “making it”)

• How creativity requires boundaries and self-care

• And the heart behind Tanner’s new book, Getting Through What You’re Going Through

This conversation reminded me:

Hope doesn’t always arrive with answers.
Sometimes it arrives with breath.
With language.
With someone willing to sit beside you and say,
“You’re not alone in this.”

If you’re tired of hope that floats above the ache instead of sitting inside it,
if you’re grieving,
if you’re carrying questions,
if you’re standing in front of the fridge wondering if your bored, hungry, or neither —

This episode is for you.

Chapters

00:00 — Introduction to Tanner Olson’s Work
02:03 — Exploring the In-Between: Writing Style and Language
06:14 — The Role of Hope in Poetry and Life
11:52 — Navigating Grief and Resilience
15:51 — Defining Hope: A Personal Perspective
20:10 — The Power of Presence in Difficult Times
24:43 — Writing as a Tool for Healing
27:35 — The Essence of Honest Writing
31:07 — The Importance of Paying Attention
32:30 — Slowing Down and Embracing Imperfection
33:27 — Navigating Stress and Boundaries
36:42 — The Myth of “Making It” as a Writer
40:10 — Creating Poetry: Behind the Scenes
43:19 — The Gift of Life: A Poetic Reflection
48:17 — Hopes for Readers and the Journey Ahead

Tanner Olson is an author, spoken word poet, and speaker who travels across the country sharing poetry and telling stories of grace and hope. His work has been described as “hopefully unique and inviting,” blending faith, humor, and curiosity in ways that meet readers right where they are.

He is the author of multiple books, including Walk a Little Slower: A Collection of Poems and Other Words and All the Things I Say to God. His newest book, Getting Through What You’re Going Through, releases tomorrow, February 17.

Tanner doesn’t take himself too seriously, drinks his coffee black, and cheers for the Orlando Magic. He lives in Nashville, Tennessee with his wife, son, and dog, Pancake.

Connect with Tanner
Instagram: @writtentospeak
Website: writtentospeak.com

Pre-order Getting Through What You’re Going Through
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A gentle invitation

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Mariana

Valentine’s Day often celebrates grand gestures.
Flowers. Jewelry. Public declarations.

But the deepest love I’ve ever known
was written on a small piece of paper
in broken English.

My mother did not write love letters.
She wrote grocery lists.

And I am beginning to understand
they are the same thing.

Love, in Mami's Language
by Mariana Herrera Mosli

Love,
in her language,
does not wait
to be perfect.

Paper tower.
toilet Paper.

My mother writes what disappears.
Not grief.
Not fear.
Not the bruise blooming under silence.

She writes what keeps a home standing.

Laundry Detergen.
Fabuloso. 
clorox.

The house smells like borrowed lavender,
like a softness we could afford.
Still, she believes in the possibility of clean.

She trusts water
to loosen the pain
from her hands.

paper plates.

Because sometimes love looks like
not asking the suffering
to do one more thing.

pollo.
met.

The word meat feels too heavy in her mouth,
so she gives it feathers.

Chicken becomes mercy.
Chicken becomes tomorrow.

spaguetis.
macarones.

Two kinds of soft.
Two kinds of spiral.
Two ways to say:
Stay.

Rice.

The grain that multiplies
if you ask it nicely.
The grain that forgives small pots.

black Beans,
Red Beans.

Darkness and warmth.
Endurance made edible.

tomatos sauce.
sasón.
Sasón compete

She knows what flavor costs.
She asks for it anyway.

Juices.

Something sweet
in a life that wasn’t.

She never learned to drive.
Never learned to take up much space.
Never learned English the way classrooms demanded.

But she learned how to feed people.

And feeding neighbors
is a kind of vow.

Four years later,
the kitchen chair remains.
The stove light stays on.

I was here.
I tried.
and I love you
Boths.

Today, while the world celebrates romance,
I am remembering a different kind of love.

The kind that never needed a spotlight.
The kind that endured violence.
The kind that felt ashamed to ask for help
but still wrote the list.

If love is patient, kind, not self-seeking —
then perhaps my mother was fluent all along.

Happy Valentine’s Day
to the ones who serve quietly.
To the ones whose love smells like detergent and garlic.
To the ones who keep the stove light on.

The Way of Love

13 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.

⁴ Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; ⁶ it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. ⁷ Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

⁸ Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. ⁹ For we know in part and we prophesy in part, ¹⁰ but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. ¹¹ When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. ¹² For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

¹³ So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

(1 Corinthians 13)

Meet At The Well is brought to you by Mariana Herrera Mosli—writer, poet, and seminary student whose work lives at the intersection of theology, storytelling, and lived experience.
An ESL learner turned English Literature graduate, Mariana explores faith, healing, and becoming through biblical literature and story.
She is pursuing a Master of Arts in Theology with an emphasis in Women and Ministry and is currently working on her first poetry collection, Thorns & Honey (tentative title), forthcoming with The Way Back Books, spring 2027.

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Holidays have a way of holding tension—the beauty and the ache, the gratitude and the grief.
And this year, I feel all of it differently.

During one of the most vulnerable seasons, I have lived through the kind of betrayal and soul-shaking treachery—the kind you never imagine from someone you trusted—that leaves you with more questions than answers and qu…

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Some words tangled in grief and despair only find form in prayer. This is one of them. In a week where blood cries out from the ground and neighbors scatter in fear, I needed to write—not for answers—to bear witness.

My hope is that these lines invite us to look again, to ask questions, to leave our jars behind, and to become neighbors in the way Christ has shown us: with His body, His blood, and His Spirit.

Where Is Our God, Neighbor?

By Mariana Herrera Mosli

The question spills
from the mouth of grief,
staring down another child
slumped beneath classroom lights.

Across oceans,
streets echo with bombs,
blood pooling around lifeless bodies
that once laughed and played beneath classroom lights,
while trembling hands of neighbor-mothers
scream their names
into prayers.

Where is our God, neighbor,
when the earth cracks open—
a train, a street,
a parliament on fire,
a body on the floor?

On the train where a refugee hemorrhages,
her eyes begging humanity,
while her neighbors raise phones
and stand unmoved.

In a campus courtyard
where a neighbor’s heart pours out—
a body once filled with breath,
with a tongue that spoke of weapons,
of freedom,
and empathy being nothing more
than dangerous fiction.

On the steps where neighbors scatter,
shoes slick with crimson.

The earth itself weeps red,
groaning louder than our newsfeeds,
while we—muted, scrolling—
trapped in systems
that lull our souls,
and bend our biases towards hatred
instead of tending neighbor wounds.

We are undone.
Tongues dry with fear,
hearts hardened,
neighbors cannot be trusted
with the fragile weight
of our humanity.

And yet—
a prophet once ate a scroll,
bitter and sweet,
so he could speak to exiles
who forgot their own names.
And a woman once left her jar,
so her thirst could become
a witness among enemies.

Where is our neighbor, God?

Comforted,
while blood cries out from the ground.
Distracted,
while souls carry horrors
never meant for consumption.

Still, the ground shakes, demanding witness,
still, the blood insists we look again.

And yet—
a neighbor can ache
and still bear Love,
can walk through a valley of violence
with eyes lifted toward the city
where night will be no more.

Arms that grip weapons can drop them.
Clenched fists can dare to be held.

Love did not triumph with a sword—
Love became a body broken,
with blood poured out,
and arms open wide
for perishing neighbors,
numbed by comfort and distraction.

Love saves by seeing.
Love binds neighbor to neighbor.
Love rewrites our thirst
into witness.

So I, too, leave my jar—
my frantic survival,
my endless scrolling—
and take a step towards my neighbors
with reaching hands:

Here is your God.
Here, among the bleeding.
Here, in the breaking.
Here, in the becoming
human again.

Here is your God—
here, where the blood cries out.
Here, where wounds fester unhealed.
Here, where Love will not leave.

Here is your neighbor.
Here, among the bleeding.
Here, in the breaking.
Here, in the becoming
human again.

Here is your God!
Here in the blood,
Here in the bones,
Here in the witness
who will not be silenced.

Here is your neighbor—
Here!
Here!
Here!

A Culture of Fracture

The past few weeks have felt oddly abrasive, in a climate where everything already feels heavy. I noticed it in my interactions with others: quicker tempers, sharper sighs, a low-grade hum of tension simmering just beneath the surface.

It’s as if we’re forgetting how to converse to connect—or worse, we’ve grown more comfortable with the disconnection itself, perhaps it feels easier that way.

Have you noticed it too?

In a culture that seems to thrive on epicaricacy—Gen Z stares, millennial pauses, and everyone else trying to dodge the next label—I found myself wrestling not just with where to bring my outrage at how difficult it’s become to connect, but how to name it.

What do we do with the ache when it turns sideways?

When Outrage Misses the Mark

We fail—both morally and spiritually—when our outrage skips over the systems and powers deforming us all, and instead lands on the individuals nearest to us. Especially the ones Mr. Rogers didn’t quite prepare us for.

It’s easier to mock a neighbor than to confront a system.
Easier to screenshot than to examine our complicity.
Easier to throw a meme than to drop the stone in our hand.

The Court of Public Opinion

I had a conversation recently about infidelity. This time, it centered on a CEO caught on camera at a concert, embracing someone who wasn’t his wife.

A deer-in-headlights glance. A suspicious reaction on a kiss cam.

That’s all the data we had.

And yet, whether it was a moment of reckless familiarity or something more complicated, the internet did what it does.

The modern stones flew in the form of reels, jokes, and punchlines.
In less than 24 hours, his marriage, character, and legacy were declared guilty by the court of public opinion.
And anyone connected to either party? Collateral damage.

Some may say, “Well, he’s rich, he’s powerful. Justice was served.”

As if shame-by-virality equals accountability.
As if his status made him fair game for moral obliteration.
As if we could stay clean by getting blood on our neighbor’s hands instead.

But here’s the truth we’d rather scroll past:

We create these cultures.
We reward the celebrity machine.
We consume the stories.
We preach “play stupid games, win stupid prizes,” without ever asking who built the casino.

We want judgment without the mirror.
We want moral clarity without inner work.
We want mercy for us—and memes for everyone else.

When the Church Becomes the System

And the Church is not innocent in this.

Instead of standing apart from the systems Jesus came to subvert, we became one.
Instead of wrestling against principalities and powers, we picked fights with flesh and blood.
Instead of naming the violence of empire, we learned how to baptize it with “discernment” and dress it up in religious respectability.

The Gospel was never a strategy to climb the ladder. It was the holy act of flipping the whole structure upside down.

Jesus didn’t rise through the ranks—He descended.
He didn’t side with empire—He exposed it.
He didn’t condemn the woman charged with adultery—He interrupted the system of stones.

And in doing so, Jesus shows us how we, too, can interrupt punitive systems of violence and dehumanization—while still standing for truth and holding people accountable.

In a way that relevance, spectacle, and power never could.

Because when we join the culture of schadenfreude and say things like:

“Eat the rich.”
“Sterilize the poor.”
“Lock up the immigrant.”
“Mock the man who failed.”

We are not “standing for truth.”

We are standing in the place of the accuser.
And the Church was never meant to be—nor align with—the accuser.

We were meant to be the light. The refuge. The courageous witnesses to another way.

The System in the Sand (John 8)

Join me in taking a closer look at how Jesus actually responded to a public spectacle like the one we so easily meme today.

In John 8, we find a woman dragged into the public square, caught in the act of adultery. She’s not just exposed—she’s used. A pawn in a setup meant to trap Jesus.

If He spares her, He violates the Law of Moses.
If He condemns her, He breaks Roman law (which prohibited Jews from carrying out executions).

It’s important to understand what the Mosaic law required:
Both parties caught in adultery were to be stoned (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22).
And yet, only the woman was brought. No one even asked about the man.

Sound familiar?

Jesus doesn’t react. He doesn’t accuse.
He kneels.
He writes in the dirt.

Some have speculated that He wrote the sins of the accusers. However, if we hold that theory up to the rest of the Gospel, it doesn’t align with His character. Jesus does not weaponize shame. He doesn’t name-drop sin for spectacle.

That’s what they do. That’s what we do.

No—He isn’t accusing. He’s revealing.

In the sand, our great high priest, shows them—and us—that they have already broken the very law they claim to uphold.

They are not seeking justice. They are manipulating it.
For relevance. For spectacle. For power.

And so He stands:

“Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.”

The crowd wants Jesus to condemn her, so they continued accusing.

He kneels again.
He writes again.

This is where we see Jesus fulfill Messianic prophecy.

He gives them time to see. Time to be filled with living water.

Instead, they drop the stones and flee—starting with the older ones.

When He finally speaks to the woman, He does what no one else in the crowd had done:
He sees her.
He dignifies her.
He protects her.
He tells the truth.

“Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
“No one, sir.”
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

This is not license. This is justice.

Not vengeance.
Not spectacle.
Not systemic silence or cover-up.

Justice confronts sin without destroying the sinner.
Justice holds space for transformation.
Justice speaks up, unbiased and revelatory.

Our Stones May Look Different— Yet, They Still Harm

Both the crowd and the woman were wounded by the system of stones. Both sides needed repentance, restoration, and hope. Jesus offered all three.

What Jesus interrupted with His body and His presence is the very thing we’ve learned to recreate in pixels and sound bites.

Screens for stones—bodies still broken.
We draw blood in the name of justice, trading true accountability for spectacle.
We sacrifice restoration on the altar of public takedown.
And the powers at work? Still wrestling flesh and blood.

What if the person at the center of the meme was your child?
What if they were waking up from a lie they had believed for too long?
What if their repentance started quietly—and ended prematurely under the weight of your sarcasm?

A fellow writer, , puts it this way in her essay Cults and Converts:

“If we really believed that the dehumanizing cruelty of MAGA [—or celebrity culture—or schadenfreude culture—] is malforming our nation and our neighbors, that hatred directed at our neighbor is an indictment of our national soul, we would not respond to those beginning the scary and painful process of admitting they were wrong by poking fun at them. Or worse, deridingly condemning them as less than us.”

So what would we do differently?

We would mirror Christ.
Ask questions.
Reveal manipulation and abuse.
Dismantle the systems—without destroying the soul.

Soul Formation in a Digital Age

After attending a class intensive at Northern Seminary last month, where Dr. Felicia Wu Song taught us on soul formation in a digital age, I’ve been thinking more deeply about what’s happening to us online.

As social individuals, the digital world forms us—even when we think we’re the ones in control.

Our social imaginary as living temples of God is often in tension with the social imaginary of the digital.

The digital age tells us the “good life” is constant optimization:
Quantify. Perform. Rectify. Control.
Be connected—but not truly connected to anyone.
Produce. Perform. React.

But Jesus invites us to pause.
To kneel and feel the sand in our hands.
To write in the dirt.

The Beatitudes—the Sermon on the Mount—collide with the logic of the scroll:
Blessed are the poor in spirit.
Blessed are the merciful.
Blessed are the peacemakers.

Tish Harrison Warren writes:

“In contemporary America, our daily formation...is often at odds with our formation in Word and Sacrament. In [Christianity’s] alternative economy of the true bread of life, we are turned inside out so that we are no longer people marked by scarcity, jockeying for our own good, but are new people, truly nourished, and therefore able to extend nourishment to others.”

This is the third way.
Not vengeance.
Not silence.
Nourishment.
Formation.
Truth-in-mercy.

The Stories That Shape Us

This past week, we watched The Princess Bride as a family. I wanted to share it with my husband and our younger children—especially our son—who's spent the summer running from room to room with his cape flapping and play sword drawn, narrating his imaginary battles against dragons and doom.

Of course, I couldn’t resist quoting the most famous line in my best attempt at Inigo’s dramatic voice:

“Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.”

He laughed. He repeated it all day.

But when we sat down to watch the full film, something unexpected happened.

Much older than the first time I saw it, I heard the story differently this time.
Inigo’s line near the end made me pause:

“I've been in the revenge business so long, now that it's over, I don't know what to do with the rest of my life.”

There’s a peculiar kind of grace in how art reveals itself to us over time—how a single line of dialogue can lie dormant for years until one day, it speaks truth in a way we are ready to receive.

And this one? It hit hard.

Because vengeance, even when justified, can become our identity. It can disguise itself as justice, when it’s a trap—a system that feeds on our pain, and makes us believe we’re doing something righteous by clinging to it.

But, God.

Jesus invites us into a different way.
He doesn’t just interrupt the system of stones. He disrupts the identity of the accuser within us.

“Vengeance is Mine,” says the Lord.
— Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:19

This isn’t a threat—it’s a boundary. A rescue.

Scripture reminds us that vengeance belongs to God alone. Why?
Because only God can hold it without being consumed by it.
Because His justice is not only righteous, but restorative. It protects. It convicts. And it makes a way forward.

Jesus invites us to ask:
What lies beyond justified vengeance?
Could the most courageous act of faith be not the slaying of dragons, but the laying down of our need to punish?
What if the Holiest thing we can do is to let go of the “revenge business”… and learn to live again?

Inigo’s last line felt like a confession.
A question.
A cracked door.

It made me wonder how many of us are caught in a similar cycle. Revenge might not be our vocation, but outrage is. Re-posting shame. Policing moral failure. Rehearsing who wronged us and why they deserve it.

And yet, Jesus invites us to something more.

When we take vengeance into our own hands, we don’t become freer.
We become bound by it. Formed by it. Malformed by it.

Jesus offers another way: one that protects the mind, body, and soul.

One that says: Lay down the sword. Drop the stone.
There is life beyond the outrage business.

Vengeance Is Not Justice

Jesus did not die and rise so we could become more efficient at throwing stones.
He came to interrupt the spectacle and dignify the broken.

He came to restore the human, not amplify the humiliation.

He came to challenge the law-abusers, not cozy up to their platforms.

Vengeance is not justice.
So many of us have confused the two.

Vengeance keeps us shackled.
Justice sets us free.

Vengeance perpetuates the vicious cycles we create and conform to.
Justice provides a way forward—even in the condemnation of sin.

And so should we.

A Final Word and a Third Way

Regardless of the system—political, religious, digital—Jesus is Spirit and Truth.
And if we are in Him, we are shaped to live that way, too.

That means refusing the urgency of the scroll.
It means examining the performance-based economy we’ve adopted as “righteous anger.”
It means embodying a justice that protects and restores—not one that entertains or destroys.

We cannot offer healing by becoming the very violence we claim to resist.

We do not fight flesh and blood.
We fight the systems that keep us convinced we do.

So let’s stop conforming to the systems Jesus came to subvert.
Let’s not only point at the problem—let’s kneel beside it, like Jesus in the sand.
Let’s respond with justice, not vengeance.
It is a better, worthy way.
Jesus proved it.

If You’re Still With Me

This essay is my attempt to bring a knotted mess into the light—to begin untangling what’s so often left twisted. Not to claim the final word, but to offer a truer starting place in answering the question:

What do we do with the ache when it turns sideways?

I believe the answers lie beyond the scroll.

Beyond the reels.

Beyond the meme-casting instincts of our culture.

I believe the answers lie in the sacred act of sharing a meal with someone who disagrees with you.

In the slow work of listening.

In the brave choice to extend dignity instead of dominance.

In the Holy tension of truth and mercy, held together like flesh and spirit.

I believe the answers lie outside the systems that feed on our pain—and in the footsteps of a Savior who knelt low, wrote in the sand, and refused to throw the stone.

We heal not by sharpening our judgment, but by softening our presence.

We blur the man-made lines by drawing closer to the people on the other side of them.

By choosing compassion over condemnation.

Connection over performance.

Formation over outrage.

If this stirred something in you—if it gave you language for the tension you’ve been carrying—I hope you’ll sit with it. Share it. Wrestle with it in community.

Thank you for staying. For questioning. For dropping the stone and leaning close.

May we be people of light in a culture of spectacle.

People who make space for justice to be just.

From dust at the well,
Mariana

P.S. I’m working on Season 1 podcast episodes that will expand on these reflections and more, you can listen here.

Dear friends,

This Saturday, I’ll be stepping into something new.

For the first time, I’ve been invited to lead two breakout sessions at the 2025 Cultivate Retreat: Unrelenting Hope. It’s a gathering of writers, spiritual leaders, artists, and everyday people longing for healing, beauty, and courage in a hurting world.

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A while ago, I shared a note on Substack that reached more people than anything I’ve ever written here. It was short. It was tender. It was true.

You can read my words below:

I went back to finish my English degree at 42.

After grief. After caregiving. In the thick of loss.

I started sharing my writing at 44.

Terrified. Honest.

This is who I am. This is what I see. This is what I carry.

I started a Substack.

I have one paid subscriber.

It’s my therapist.

And her support means everything.

I'm writing my first book.

Voice trembling, I’ve read my poems to strangers.

Presented research in rooms not built for people like me.

I’m in seminary.

And most days, I feel less like Paul with his letters—

and more like the woman at the well,

writing an exegesis with a dry throat and a broken heart.

Still wondering if my witness matters.

Still showing up anyway.

Not with perfection.

Not for performance.

Just with a pen—

and a willingness to stay near the ache.

To speak to the one deemed unworthy:

Something good,

something Holy,

is still at work.

Even here.

Even now.

Even through us.

For anyone who’s ever felt like a question mark in a world full of exclamation points—

you are not alone.

What surprised me most wasn’t the reach—it was the replies.
The writers and creatives who whispered back: me too.
People rebuilding their lives quietly.
People wondering if their story matters.
People writing in the dark.

So I want to linger with that ache for a moment. Not to fix it, but to honor it.
To make space for the sacred work of those of us still becoming.

The Library Floor

I remember sitting on the floor of my university library, fall 2022, holding a copy of Salvation: Black People and Love by bell hooks in one hand and my grief in the other.

I had just returned to college after a 14-year break. I had no idea why God had called me back to academia, especially during such a painful time in my life.

I was older than most of my classmates. I was in mourning. I was exhausted from caregiving.

For years, I had created beauty for others as a photographer—helping people feel seen, known, and celebrated.
But to experience that for myself?
To come home to beauty within, not just around me?
That would require something deeper.

I sat on that floor, listening for a word that might tell me I could still belong.

That’s where writing began again for me. Not on a blank page, but in the rubble.
A journey back to my own soul, my story, my faith.
I didn’t have a plan. I only had painful questions.
And a quiet, persistent hope that language could hold what life had broken open.

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The Mic in My Hand

The first time I read my poetry aloud to the rest of my creative writing class peers, my voice trembled so hard I could barely finish the piece.

All I could see, written behind my eyelids in bold, official letters:
Hispanic vowel distortion.

I spoke the words anyway.

Not because I felt ready.
Because I wanted to believe that the truth I carried might make someone else feel less alone.

That’s still why I write. Not because I have answers.
I write because I know what it feels like to sit in the audience, aching to hear someone name the unspoken thing.

I write for the ones in the back row. I write for the ones that are not even in the building.
The ones who don’t see themselves in the headline stories.
The ones who wonder if they’re too much—or not enough.

This Is the Work

After graduating with my English degree, I found myself at a crossroads with where to continue my graduate studies. The Lord answered my prayers one late afternoon at the Michael Kuperman Memorial Poetry Library. The next time I sat in that same space, I had my answer.

I’m now at Northern Seminary, pursuing a Master of Arts in Theology with an Emphasis in Women and Ministry; writing papers that feel more like laments and prayers.
Most days, I feel less like Paul with his polished letters and more like the woman at the well—
scribbling notes, interrupting the lecture with curious, childlike questions,
with a dry throat and a broken heart.

Yet, I’m here.

Still writing.
Still showing up.
Still offering what I can.

Because I believe in slow miracles.
In Holy questions.
In the kind of witness that doesn’t shout—but stays.

If you’re here, I want to say thank you. Truly.
Your presence matters more than you know.

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I’ve been quieter here lately.

Some of that is due to the usual suspects—life, seminary, children, deadlines—and most recently, the long, disorienting days of my son’s hospitalization for pneumonia. He’s doing better now. Still, I’m catching up to myself. Still crawling back toward the center. Still remembering how to be human again.

There’s been a deep soul-ache beneath the surface. A quiet desperation—not just to unplug, to disentangle. To step back from the screen and the noise. I’ve felt the slow leak of presence. The way my mind skips like a stone across endless content, craving connection, yet rarely landing.

Henri Nouwen opens The Way of the Heart with that piercing question above. It stopped me the first time I read it. What is required of us to speak hope in these chaotic times?

I’ve been carrying that question close. Letting it work on me like a stone worn smooth by time and prayers. Not to answer with certainty; instead, holding with reverence.

To even begin to respond, I have to name the turmoil and agony—yes, out there in the world; and just as much, in here, in me.

Nouwen doesn’t mince words:

“Our society is not a community radiant with the love of Christ, but a dangerous network of domination and manipulation in which we can easily get entangled and lose our soul.”

When I read those three words—lose our soul—something in me jolted. It didn’t feel theoretical. It felt like a warning flare.

It touched something older than my inbox or my notifications. It touched a wound I’ve carried since childhood.

Because my first experience of “community” wasn’t the internet. It was my family. And I know, deep in my bones, what it means to be entangled—not just in society, but in a household built on control, manipulation, blurred boundaries, and unspoken grief.

So when Nouwen talks about a dangerous network, I don’t just think of algorithms or platform-building pressures. I think of the emotional labor I’ve carried in rooms that should have been safe. I think of the cost of being the one who holds it all together. The way we learn, early, to meet everyone else’s needs at the expense of our own soul.

Lately, I’ve been doing the slow, sacred work of building something new. Setting boundaries. Saying hard no’s. Choosing healing over obligation. Even in my closest relationships—especially the complicated ones—I’m learning that protecting my soul isn’t selfish. It’s sacred. And maybe, it’s the first step toward offering real hope.

“For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?” —Matthew 16:26

Writers like Andrew Sullivan and Shoshana Zuboff describe our digital entanglement with prophetic clarity. Sullivan’s essay “I Used to Be a Human Being” reads like a confession from the edge of burnout. He describes how the endless feed of information fractured his ability to simply be—to think, to feel, to pray.

Zuboff, in “You Are Now Remotely Controlled,” takes it further: our attention—and by extension, our identity—is shaped by systems that don’t just track our behavior, they train it. We’re not just using the tools. We are becoming them. In that economy, solitude is a threat. Stillness is resistance.

Nouwen names it plainly:

“We move through life in such a distracted way that we do not even take the time and rest to wonder if any of the things we think, say, or do are worth thinking, saying, or doing.”

Nouwen’s words cut deep. I’ve spent years chasing worth through being seen—through the comfort of visibility, the quiet relief of knowing someone noticed. The rush of engagement, the metrics that masquerade as meaning. It never holds. It’s a false balm. I was everywhere—available to all, yet rooted nowhere. Scrolling, posting, performing—yet rarely pausing long enough to ask whether any of it was worth my words, my thoughts, or my efforts.

That’s why solitude matters. Why the wisdom of the desert mothers and fathers keeps calling me back—not to isolation: to transformation. A place to let the compulsions surface. To notice what I’ve been chasing. To meet God in the quiet and allow Him to reveal who I am beneath the noise.

“Solitude is the place of the great struggle and the great encounter—the struggle against the compulsions of the false self, and the encounter with the loving God who offers Himself as the substance of the new self.” —Henri Nouwen

This is what draws me to Matthew 4.

The Spirit doesn’t lead Jesus to a stage.
He is led into the wilderness.
Not for punishment, for preparation.
Not to be seen, to be stripped—
of distraction, of false affirmation,
of every voice that says, you are only as good as what you produce, perform, or prove.

There, in the barren quiet, He is met by temptation:
To be relevant.
To be spectacular.
To be powerful.

To make bread from stones.
To throw Himself from heights.
To bow for kingdoms.

Jesus does not waver.
Anchored in His Father’s love, His “no” to the compulsions of a false self is a deeper “yes” to truth—
to His identity, His mission, His communion with God.

That kind of clarity isn’t found in applause or algorithms.
It’s not the product of noise, but of knowing.
And knowing is born in silence.

In the wilderness, there are no crowds.
Just questions.
And the whisper of God.

This is where the false self begins to fall away.
Where the soul stops hustling for approval
and remembers it is already known.

Clarity isn’t about having the right words.
It’s about having a rooted heart.
And that, I’m learning, is cultivated in quiet.

Nouwen offers a map: Flee. Be silent. Pray.
Not to escape forever.
To return differently.

To speak a word of hope not from exhaustion or performance, from Presence.

That’s what I’m practicing now. Not with perfection, with intention.
To step away.
To be still.
To reclaim solitude as a necessity, not a luxury.
The space where my soul is re-formed.

Because if I don’t flee the noise, I risk becoming it.
If I don’t practice silence, I forget how to listen.
If I don’t pray—deeply, honestly—
I won’t have anything true to say when the world is aching for something real.

So I’m learning (again) how to be alone.
Not lonely—just alone with God.

And in that quiet, I begin to remember who I am.

Because the truth is, if I’m to speak a word of hope to a hurting world,
then I must first live.
Fully. Honestly.
Not numbed out or chronically distracted.

Awake. Rooted. Present.

Hope doesn’t begin with a microphone or a message.
It begins in the hidden place.
In the choices no one sees.
In the quiet courage to resist the tide of urgency and self-forgetting.
It begins in solitude.

Without it, I risk being consumed by the very forces I long to resist.
I risk losing my soul in the name of trying to save someone else’s.

Solitude isn’t escape.
It’s encounter.

It’s where I listen.
It’s where I remember.
It’s where I learn the difference between noise
and a word worth speaking.

And from that place, I can re-enter the world:
With presence.
With softness.
With clarity.
With a heart that’s been re-anchored in Love, not fear.

Reflection Prompts for You, Dear Reader:

• What digital habits leave you feeling more scattered than settled?

• When was the last time you sat in silence—on purpose?

• What might it look like to flee, be silent, pray in your daily rhythm?

So what’s required of us?

Not perfection.
Not performance.
Not even certainty.

Only a willingness to stay near to the ache of the world
without letting it hollow us out.

A rhythm of stepping back,
so we can step in whole.

A commitment to rest deeply enough
that our words are not reactive, they are rooted.

To speak a word of hope is to become a witness—
not to everything going wrong; to the possibility that something good,
something holy, is still at work.
Even now.

It is to hold space for healing in the midst of grief.
To name the ache without letting it have the last word.
To live as though resurrection is not just a doctrine,
it is a rhythm—one we’ve tasted in our bones.

So I return to Nouwen’s question—
not with a final answer,
but with a prayer:

May I enter the turmoil of this world with a spirit formed in silence.
May I wrestle honestly, love boldly,
and speak with the kind of hope
that is born of presence and identity.

Meet Me at Cultivate: Two Sessions for Hope and Connection

If you’re longing for that kind of rooted hope, presence, and healing community, I’d love to invite you to something special. I’m honored to be presenting at the Cultivate Retreat hosted by , happening June 20–22. It’s a virtual retreat (yes, you can join from anywhere!) and everything will be recorded—so you can engage at your own pace if the timing doesn’t line up.

I’ll be offering two sessions drawn from my own journey through faith, rejection, and finding home in the margins:

🕊 Breaking Barriers, Not People: A Hopeful Way Forward – practical tools for healing relational divides, drawing from John 4 and the theology of presence.
🌿 Border-Crossing Grace: Gospel for the Outsider – exploring how we are known in our questions and contradictions, through storytelling and relational practices, even in the in-between.

If you’re a weary soul, a faithful creative, or someone who’s navigating the in-between—this retreat is for you. A space to rest, reconnect, and remember who you are.

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Come. Be nourished. Let’s keep meeting at the well,
Not for answers, but for the kind of presence that keeps us human.

That’s where real hope begins.

Community Connections

I’m not the only one sensing the need for a more rooted, present way of being. This summer, a few fellow Substack writers are inviting readers into intentional pauses and digital rewilding — not as an escape, but as a return. A return to ourselves, to the sacred, to attention.

, over at Sayable, is hosting a three-month communal social media sabbatical for writers and creators. It’s not a “break for the sake of rest,” but an invitation to deeper inner formation — a chance to rethink our relationship to platform, pace, and presence. She writes:

“We’re going to try to create some space between those habits and your true and beloved self.”

You can learn more and join Lore’s “not-a-book club” here.

Another invitation comes from at Every Day Saints, with a rebellious twist of nostalgia and analog delight. Think: DVD players, handwritten notes, movie nights, prayer rhythms, and hobbies that reawaken wonder. This isn’t a productivity detox — it’s a pilgrimage back to embodiment.

“Trade in convenience, distraction, and notifications for ritual, connection, and wonder.”

That link is here.

Whether or not you join one of these communities, I hope this essay helps you feel less alone in your longing to be… more fully alive.

Dear Reader,

If you’re carrying a quiet dread into Mother’s Day this year, you’re not alone.

This letter is for the daughters still grieving, the mothers holding failure and hope in the same hands, and all of us who find ourselves somewhere in the in-between.

Mother’s Day, for many, feels like a cha…

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Today, we journey back to Jacob’s well in John 4, where a simple request for water sparks the longest recorded conversation Jesus has with anyone in the New Testament—not with a religious leader, but with a Samaritan woman many would have overlooked.
In this episode, we’ll explore:

• The cultural and historical backdrop of John 4

• How Jesus models dignity, curiosity, and truth in hard conversations

• What "Woman at the Well Theology" invites us into today

• The principle of charity—and why connection, not combat, is the goal

• How storytelling bridges the sacred and the secular one word at a time

If you’ve ever felt caught between worlds—too sacred for the secular, too secular for the sacred—this conversation is for you.
Resources Mentioned:

• John 4:1-42 (Biblical text)

• Genesis 16 (Story of Hagar, referenced briefly)

• Principle of Charity (for more on this communication approach, check out The Principle of Charity by Michael Patrick Lynch and Scott Aikin or visit [this overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity

• Affective Science (exploring emotional regulation, connection, and communication)

Need Support?
If today’s episode stirred things in you and you’re looking for help, you're not alone. Here are some resources:

• BetterHelp Online Therapy (https://www.betterhelp.com/) – access licensed therapists from anywhere

• Psychology Today Therapist Directory(https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists) – find local support based on your needs

• NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness (https://nami.org/Home) – mental health resources, support groups, and education

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Until next time—
Come thirsty. You are welcome here.

Two years ago, on April 9, 2023, I wrote a poem in the quiet sanctuary of my Notes app, moved by a sermon that stirred something deep in my spirit.

Today, I reread those words—and wept.

It’s strange, isn’t it, how resurrection can feel like a reality for everyone else but still feel so distant when you’re wrapped in grave clothes of your own. I’ve been carrying grief and hope in both hands for so long, that at times is hard to tell them apart. I know I’m not alone.

This poem was written in the tension between knowing the tomb is empty and still feeling buried. Between knowing Christ has risen and struggling to believe He’d rise for someone like me. Between the Gospel proclaimed on Sunday and the silence that follows on Monday.

Psychologist, author, and trauma expert, Diane Langberg, writes,

“The Power of the Resurrection is a call to come.

Come, bring Him your chaos and disorder, your wilderness and your battles; bring Him all your many deaths—dead words, dead deeds, dead thoughts, and dead hearts.

I am weary; He is rest

I am in bondage, He is freedom

I am angry, He is peace

I am battered. He is the healer

Come and bring Him who you are and ask Him to show you who He is and to make you like Himself.”

I share my poem now not because I have emerged triumphant, but because I am still learning to fold my grave clothes and lay them down—one sorrow, one burden, one memory at a time.

Here is the poem I wrote that day:

Grave Clothes
by Mariana Herrera Mosli

My risen King, as if you haven’t done enough, 

I bring you my burdens. 

Some my doing, others out of my control. 

My tears leave a salty trail down my cheek

And I wonder if yours taste the same. 

Your words flood my mind with beauty and splendor, 

And I fear they are cheapened by the limits of my imagination. 

My risen King, as if the Good News hasn’t traveled far enough from the empty grave

I hold onto grief and hope, 

At times not able to tell them apart. 

My risen King, remind me again

How your death speaks of forgiveness, 
Your burial speaks of freedom, 
And your resurrection speaks of a future beyond the dark doors of death. 

My risen King, as if your Word didn’t make death a fool, 

I struggle to leave my grave clothes behind.

My risen King, if you left yours, so will I. 

You are worthy of it all.

There’s a verse that has been on my hurting heart today:

“The face cloth, which had been on Jesus’ head, was not lying with the linen cloths but folded up in a place by itself.”
—John 20:7

One of the first acts of our Risen Lord was to fold a piece of fabric.

No trumpet. No fire. Only cloth, gently laid aside.

Why?

Because Jesus cares about every detail.

The resurrection marks the restoration of all things—chaos, family dysfunction, disorder—starting with a folded face cloth.

This small act echoes with cosmic significance: death has been overcome. The tomb is not where the story ends. The King has risen and He is already setting the world—and us—back in order.

Right there, in the silence and darkness of the tomb, the work of new creation had already begun. Jesus didn’t need His grave clothes anymore. He left them behind—because sin had been defeated. Death had been undone.

And He invites us to do the same.

But leaving them behind is not easy. For those of us who have been wounded by those meant to protect us, who’ve suffered harm in the places where we were supposed to be safe, the grave clothes feel...familiar. Sometimes even comfortable. Even holy things can become prisons when tangled up in trauma.

So if you find yourself holding onto sorrow that resurrection hasn’t fully unwrapped yet—know you are seen.

If your story has been marked by betrayal, boundary violations, abuse, or suffering—take heart. The One who folded the cloth is the same One who sees you, weeps with you, and walks you out of the tomb one gentle step at a time.

He is making all things new (Revelation 21:5). Including you. Including me.

Our hope is not in vain.

Happy Resurrection Sunday.
Even if today feels more like Saturday.
Even if the grave clothes are still clinging.
Even if you're still in the process of folding.

You are not forgotten.
He is risen.
And He wastes nothing.

With love and resurrection hope,
Mariana

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"Is This, O Lord, the Glory We Were Made?

In the chaos of our times—political unrest, cultural division, and the unraveling of what may have once felt stable—there’s been a quiet phrase stirring in my spirit: If God allows it, so will I.

I hesitate to embrace it. That phrase has often been misconstrued, mistaken for resignation, apathy, or blind acceptance. And yet, what if that’s not the full story? What if it’s not a call to passive suffering, but a divine invitation to walk the hidden way—a way marked not by fear, but by faith?

My fellow creatives, poets, writers, and learners of Christ: I believe we’re being called to see with new eyes, to explore a deeper, more profound meaning behind this call to action—to respond with creativity, not control.

Consider two troubling biblical stories that are often read with an initial impression, Habakkuk and Hagar, and ask the deeper question.

A New Lens on Ancient Stories

Habakkuk dares to question God: Why are You allowing violent men—the Babylonians—to rise?

Hagar, abused and cast into the desert, encounters the God of those who harmed her—whom she names El Roi. She’s instructed not to flee, but to return to the very circumstances she had escaped. On the surface, her story—and others like it—can seem like resignation, a surrender to injustice.

If we take the time to look beyond the surface, these stories aren’t about defeat or surrender. God does not say to Habakkuk or Hagar: succumb, give up, accept injustice.

He says:

You are seen.

You are known.

I am with you.

Go back—not to suffer, but to be part of something bigger than you understand right now.

What if divine allowance isn’t the end, but the beginning?
What if what looks like resignation is actually the seed of real, lasting action?
What if the true act of resistance today is not more rage, more striving, more destruction—but choosing a middle path? One that doesn't conform to the patterns of this world, but instead asks: What does my role in this unfolding love-and-redemption story look like in this moment, in this place?

The Middle Path Is Jesus

Jesus is the middle path. Not left, not right. Not escape, not aggression. He is the way no one expects—the door that didn’t exist until He spoke it into existence.

I’ve spent most of my life fighting what “wasn’t supposed to be this way.” Waging war against my circumstances and suffering. But God never promised comfort. He often allows what shakes us, what undoes us, what brings discomfort and pain. Not because He is cruel, but because He is redeeming it all. Romans 8:28 assures us that all things work together for good for those who love God. Our task is not to resist the unraveling, but to find our place within it, wielding creativity as our guide.

Our greater fear, if we're honest, is not what man can do—but what God allows. The things that don’t make sense. The deferred dreams we didn’t expect. The doors that slam shut. The jobs lost, the relationships ended, the lonely walk down the empty hospital hallway knowing that nothing will ever be the same again.

But here’s the truth that is hard and holy: if God allowed it, He can redeem it.
And if God allows it... so will I.

Art as Resistance. Creativity as Courage

In spring of 2022, I walked the streets of Rome, stood before the Colosseum—the remnants of empires and egos. And what echoed loudest wasn’t the glory of men or their violence. It was this: Men were here. Violence was here. Power, corruption, destruction—they left their mark.

But there was another whisper.

In the cracks of those ruins, in the dust and broken stone, the bruised witnesses had been there too. The curious. The outliers. The ones who didn’t just seek answers, but dared to ask better questions.

Years later, sitting on the floor of my home library, sifting through soul-stirring poetry—including the newest addition, Exalted Ground, by Kimberly Phinney, I see it clearly: they walked a different path. The middle path. The quiet, defiant one that doesn’t yell but listens. That doesn’t demand but creates. That doesn’t give in—but gives beauty.

A Call to the Bruised Witnesses

This is my invitation—Let us be those who find the middle path, walk in the way of Jesus, and let our creativity be our courage. Let us not act out of fear—fear of men, or fear of divine distress.

By reframing our understanding of divine allowance, we embrace a space where creativity and faith intersect, crafting a narrative that transcends fear and speaks to the heart of what it means to be truly alive in Christ.

In this spirit, I wrote a sonnet inspired by William Wordsworth’s, The World Is Too Much With Us.

I presented, “Is This, O Lord, the Glory We Were Made?” at the 6th Annual USF Humanities Conference this past January.

My modern lamentation, accompanied by an audio reading, relates to Wordsworth’s simultaneous grief and anger and is a call to spiritual renewal.

Is This, O Lord, the Glory We Were Made?
By Mariana Herrera Mosli

Beneath the burnished spire, the church bells weep,

Their voices drowned by clamor’s brash command.

The earth groans still, with outstretched, patient hand,

While talents waste, entombed in barren sleep.

O gilded halls, where truth and wonder die,

What worth have we, who neither strive nor stand?

The ocean roars, faithful to the strand,

Yet hearts grow dull, unmoved by sea or sky.

Were we not formed to bear a sacred flame,

To shape Love’s light through every work and deed?

Yet gold’s false glow blinds sight and stifles need,

And Christ sits meek while Mammon mocks His name.

Is this our creed—bowed to capricious reverie, a sordid boon?

O let the skies bleed; the land shall heal and bloom.