Timeline for If you're gonna talk Politics, you must respect those who disagree
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| Jan 10, 2017 at 19:42 | comment | added | Martin Tournoij | @doppelgreener That seems like a reasonable point of view I hadn't considered; thanks! I tried looking for the "extra measures around handling contentious subjects" you mentioned on the RPG chat, and couldn't really find something easily. Do you happen to have a link or more information? | |
| Jan 8, 2017 at 2:56 | comment | added | doppelgreener | Of course we're being asked to adjust our behaviour; those who have good behaviour are asked to extend certain measures to help facilitate everyone else picking up good behaviour. We can't expect the people with poor behaviour to pick this stuff up, that's not how it works, their behaviour doesn't magically improve on its own. I'm happy doing this stuff. On RPGSE Chat we already long ago added extra measures around handling contentious subjects and it pays off beautifully and it's a privilege to have those measures to work with. | |
| Jan 7, 2017 at 23:24 | comment | added | Shog9 StaffMod | The specific problem with politics is that folks seem to suffer from a peculiar sort of amnesia when discussing politics, @rand - one in which they suddenly forget the vast amount of topics on which they hold only superficial knowledge and consider themselves well-informed experts on the topic at hand, with their opponents playing the role of ignorant rube. This tends to discourage the sort of etiquette that would normally apply in uninformed debate | |
| Jan 7, 2017 at 20:52 | comment | added | Rand al'Thor | [cont] As I understand it, this post is more about reminding those who aren't behaving properly that they should, rather than telling everyone to change the way they behave, never to chat about politics except in side rooms especially set up for the purpose, and so on. Essentially it's a reminder of how to respect others, rather than a change in the rules of SE chat. (I'm sure Shog will correct me if I'm wrong.) | |
| Jan 7, 2017 at 20:52 | comment | added | Rand al'Thor | Also, to the main point of your answer: I think you've misinterpreted the OP. Shog said "don't hijack a room dedicated to some non-partisan topic with throw-away jokes and memes" and "don't force others to leave a room dedicated to some other topic by forcing the conversation toward politics, even if - especially if - you're just making a throw-away joke", but I'm pretty sure that if people have a mature and respectful discussion about politics, by mutual agreement, in an existing room which doesn't have a strict 'on-topic' policy, that's not going to be considered a Bad Thing™. [cont] | |
| Jan 7, 2017 at 20:40 | comment | added | Rand al'Thor | @Carpetsmoker As a regular and mod in Mos Eisley, I agree that it's fine to include conversation on a whole host of topics ... but maybe what Art means is that in such cases, all those topics are in some sense already part of the room. If we interpret "the topics of existing rooms" to mean the topics which are regularly discussed and considered acceptable there, rather than just on-topic subjects for that room's associated site, then I agree with Art's comment. | |
| Jan 7, 2017 at 20:36 | comment | added | Martin Tournoij |
@ArtOfCode You should make a separate room for any subject that isn't the room's main topic that is likely to go on for more than a few messages -> In my experience with chat, this is a change from how it's used now. As every room I've frequented talks about a host of topics that aren't its primary "topic" at length, and no one seems to complain about this.
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| Jan 7, 2017 at 20:32 | comment | added | Shog9 StaffMod | I'd argue most folks don't know how to behave at least some of the time. Regardless, I'd rather have everyone being careful than setting up a witch-hunt. | |
| Jan 7, 2017 at 20:20 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | That's not what this is. If you're already a normal, respectful human being, then you don't need to change how you behave; this post is here to remind those who forget what respect is that they need to exercise it. Also, it's not being suggested that you make a separate room for a discussion just because it's Politics. You should make a separate room for any subject that isn't the room's main topic that is likely to go on for more than a few messages - that's also about respect for the people and the topics of existing rooms. | |
| Jan 7, 2017 at 20:16 | history | answered | Martin Tournoij | CC BY-SA 3.0 |