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24This question has already been answered in the FAQ. By stated policy, using pronouns for some people and not others would not be okay.user206222– user2062222019-10-23 04:44:48 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 4:44
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73@Aza Thanks, so that's compelled speech no matter how we look at it. I'll avoid the site altogether now that it has been made clear, as using neopronouns is simply not acceptable to me at a personal level.user437611– user4376112019-10-23 04:47:09 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 4:47
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9Yeah, it looks like a firm decision. If that doesn't sit well with you... well, they do kind of say that it's an expectation.user206222– user2062222019-10-23 04:48:36 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 4:48
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70@Aza It doesn't sit well with anyone who would like to maintain their rights to neutrality, silence, freedom of conscience, thought, religion, opinion, emotions, etc. If I forced you to say something that didn't align with your values, you'd share the sentiment. You would request that neutrality be sufficient. There is no other walk of life where these concepts are not sufficient.The Anathema– The Anathema2019-10-23 05:10:50 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 5:10
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10@TheAnathema I'm just conveying what's in the FAQ.user206222– user2062222019-10-23 05:15:26 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 5:15
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26In reality, the odds of any SE user encountering a post where: a) pronouns are known b) using said pronouns is necessary to write an answer c) the user is using neopronouns; is... vanishingly small. The new CoC is mostly about making a statement rather than trying to address a practical issue.JonathanReez– JonathanReez2019-10-23 05:20:12 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 5:20
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3@Aza, it's alright. I'm at least glad that you were crystal clear about it, unlike the SE folks who've beating around the bush about this crux of the issue (IMO). :)user437611– user4376112019-10-23 05:24:53 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 5:24
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3@user437611 No problem. SE doesn't have as much access to conciseness as I do; theirs is policy, I'm just a user.user206222– user2062222019-10-23 05:28:29 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 5:28
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52@JonathanReez Small, but important. I support all non-binary people and wish them complete happiness and health. I believe that they deserve respect, dignity, and kindness. I also respect their gender identity. What I do not respect is StackExchange telling its users that merely being neutral is not sufficient, and that they must acknowledge it by using the pronouns - i.e. OP/username is bannable. This has been strawmanned into "Hey, can we call them stuff they don't like?" and this mischaracterization of people's moral compass is frankly insulting and why people left over it.The Anathema– The Anathema2019-10-23 05:33:17 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 5:33
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9@TheAnathema based on this comment, never using any pronouns is acceptable. I've been an active user for many years and I can't recall the last time I've used a pronoun on a non-Meta site.JonathanReez– JonathanReez2019-10-23 05:39:06 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 5:39
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8@194636 Yes, that's an option. Though I would absolutely hate it if I had to ignore certain users just because of their pronoun choice. It places me in an almost impossible position where the choice is either "do this" or "leave". Mutual compromises are apparently not an option. Doesn't look like a healthy society to me!user437611– user4376112019-10-23 07:15:32 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 7:15
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7It is not compelled. Instead of using the speech SE would like you to use, you can avoid all third person singular pronouns or disengage with users that cause you distress.StrongBad– StrongBad2019-10-23 11:51:41 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 11:51
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@user437611 I believe mutual compromise is allowed. A user could list in their profile my pronouns are xe/xir but if you object to using them, then use whatever pronouns you are comfortable with (or avoid them all together).StrongBad– StrongBad2019-10-23 12:30:18 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 12:30
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1It isn't really more compelled speech than asking people to use 'he' and 'she' when appropriate. Many binary people would (also) be upset if they are referred to with singular-they.BlackShift– BlackShift2019-10-23 12:36:42 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 12:36
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1@Blackshift re the singular they. If a user consistently uses they in all cases of using a pronoun then they should not have to change Agreed if they do not use they in general or if they know exactly the user then using they in only some cases would be objectionablemmmmmm– mmmmmm2019-10-23 14:59:39 +00:00Commented Oct 23, 2019 at 14:59
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