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Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?

No. One thing is required of you...

My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?
My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

Our users may hold any beliefs they do... But conspicuously avoiding using pronouns for one group of people while using them normally for others is a way of refusing to recognize their identity, and that is discriminatory. Please don’t do that.

If someone is non-binary, does it really matter whether I call them "ey" or "they" or "xe" or some other gender-neutral pronoun? Do I have to handle dozens of different pronouns?

Many non-binary people will be OK with whatever non-binary pronoun you use for them - however, if they have stated one, use the one they have stated.

Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?

Not at all! If you don’t need to use pronouns to say something, that’s fine. We ask that you use pronouns as you would naturally. If you’d use them in a sentence, use them; if not, don’t. Problems arise when a person or group feels singled out by having pronouns used for other people but not for them. If you're writing normally and naturally and it comes out pronoun-less, then that's fine.

What if someone wants to be referred to as "the Great and Mighty One" or by an obscenity or something?

If something is obviously unreasonable and seems to be requested unkindly, please feel free to flag for moderator attention... Note that "it sounds silly to me" is not sufficient grounds to think something is obviously unreasonable

Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?

Yes. Sometimes the majority must accommodate a minority...

My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?
My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

If your beliefs do not recognize the self-identity of trans and nonbinary people, they are not welcome here.

If someone is non-binary, does it really matter whether I call them "ey" or "they" or "xe" or some other gender-neutral pronoun? Do I have to handle dozens of different pronouns?

Yes. You must handle any pronouns that a person asks you to. You can start with this non-exhaustive list.

Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?

Yes. If we think you're trying to avoid using someone's preferred pronouns, you may be sanctioned for it.

What if someone wants to be referred to as "the Great and Mighty One" or by an obscenity or something?

We have no actual guidance to give you here because this policy is based on ideology rather than any sensible attempt to create inclusion. You're totally on your own, and if you guess wrong, there will be consequences.

Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?

No. One thing is required of you...

My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

Our users may hold any beliefs they do... But conspicuously avoiding using pronouns for one group of people while using them normally for others is a way of refusing to recognize their identity, and that is discriminatory. Please don’t do that.

If someone is non-binary, does it really matter whether I call them "ey" or "they" or "xe" or some other gender-neutral pronoun? Do I have to handle dozens of different pronouns?

Many non-binary people will be OK with whatever non-binary pronoun you use for them - however, if they have stated one, use the one they have stated.

Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?

Not at all! If you don’t need to use pronouns to say something, that’s fine. We ask that you use pronouns as you would naturally. If you’d use them in a sentence, use them; if not, don’t. Problems arise when a person or group feels singled out by having pronouns used for other people but not for them. If you're writing normally and naturally and it comes out pronoun-less, then that's fine.

What if someone wants to be referred to as "the Great and Mighty One" or by an obscenity or something?

If something is obviously unreasonable and seems to be requested unkindly, please feel free to flag for moderator attention... Note that "it sounds silly to me" is not sufficient grounds to think something is obviously unreasonable

Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?

Yes. Sometimes the majority must accommodate a minority...

My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

If your beliefs do not recognize the self-identity of trans and nonbinary people, they are not welcome here.

If someone is non-binary, does it really matter whether I call them "ey" or "they" or "xe" or some other gender-neutral pronoun? Do I have to handle dozens of different pronouns?

Yes. You must handle any pronouns that a person asks you to. You can start with this non-exhaustive list.

Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?

Yes. If we think you're trying to avoid using someone's preferred pronouns, you may be sanctioned for it.

What if someone wants to be referred to as "the Great and Mighty One" or by an obscenity or something?

We have no actual guidance to give you here because this policy is based on ideology rather than any sensible attempt to create inclusion. You're totally on your own, and if you guess wrong, there will be consequences.

Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?

No. One thing is required of you...

My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

Our users may hold any beliefs they do... But conspicuously avoiding using pronouns for one group of people while using them normally for others is a way of refusing to recognize their identity, and that is discriminatory. Please don’t do that.

If someone is non-binary, does it really matter whether I call them "ey" or "they" or "xe" or some other gender-neutral pronoun? Do I have to handle dozens of different pronouns?

Many non-binary people will be OK with whatever non-binary pronoun you use for them - however, if they have stated one, use the one they have stated.

Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?

Not at all! If you don’t need to use pronouns to say something, that’s fine. We ask that you use pronouns as you would naturally. If you’d use them in a sentence, use them; if not, don’t. Problems arise when a person or group feels singled out by having pronouns used for other people but not for them. If you're writing normally and naturally and it comes out pronoun-less, then that's fine.

What if someone wants to be referred to as "the Great and Mighty One" or by an obscenity or something?

If something is obviously unreasonable and seems to be requested unkindly, please feel free to flag for moderator attention... Note that "it sounds silly to me" is not sufficient grounds to think something is obviously unreasonable

Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?

Yes. Sometimes the majority must accommodate a minority...

My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

If your beliefs do not recognize the self-identity of trans and nonbinary people, they are not welcome here.

If someone is non-binary, does it really matter whether I call them "ey" or "they" or "xe" or some other gender-neutral pronoun? Do I have to handle dozens of different pronouns?

Yes. You must handle any pronouns that a person asks you to. You can start with this non-exhaustive list.

Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?

Yes. If we think you're trying to avoid using someone's preferred pronouns, you may be sanctioned for it.

What if someone wants to be referred to as "the Great and Mighty One" or by an obscenity or something?

We have no actual guidance to give you here because this policy is based on ideology rather than any sensible attempt to create inclusion. You're totally on your own, and if you guess wrong, there will be consequences.

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answered Oct 24, 2019 at 2:36

eyeballfrog

Why is so much of the FAQ phrased like this?

Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?

No. One thing is required of you...

My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

Our users may hold any beliefs they do... But conspicuously avoiding using pronouns for one group of people while using them normally for others is a way of refusing to recognize their identity, and that is discriminatory. Please don’t do that.

If someone is non-binary, does it really matter whether I call them "ey" or "they" or "xe" or some other gender-neutral pronoun? Do I have to handle dozens of different pronouns?

Many non-binary people will be OK with whatever non-binary pronoun you use for them - however, if they have stated one, use the one they have stated.

Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?

Not at all! If you don’t need to use pronouns to say something, that’s fine. We ask that you use pronouns as you would naturally. If you’d use them in a sentence, use them; if not, don’t. Problems arise when a person or group feels singled out by having pronouns used for other people but not for them. If you're writing normally and naturally and it comes out pronoun-less, then that's fine.

What if someone wants to be referred to as "the Great and Mighty One" or by an obscenity or something?

If something is obviously unreasonable and seems to be requested unkindly, please feel free to flag for moderator attention... Note that "it sounds silly to me" is not sufficient grounds to think something is obviously unreasonable

In each of these answers, the FAQ immediately contradicts itself. It first gives the answer that will be acceptable to the community, then makes a blanket exception that completely undoes the first answer. Is it any wonder there's just as much confusion over the policy as before? Why not just be direct about what the policy really is:

Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?

Yes. Sometimes the majority must accommodate a minority...

My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?

I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?

If your beliefs do not recognize the self-identity of trans and nonbinary people, they are not welcome here.

If someone is non-binary, does it really matter whether I call them "ey" or "they" or "xe" or some other gender-neutral pronoun? Do I have to handle dozens of different pronouns?

Yes. You must handle any pronouns that a person asks you to. You can start with this non-exhaustive list.

Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?

Yes. If we think you're trying to avoid using someone's preferred pronouns, you may be sanctioned for it.

What if someone wants to be referred to as "the Great and Mighty One" or by an obscenity or something?

We have no actual guidance to give you here because this policy is based on ideology rather than any sensible attempt to create inclusion. You're totally on your own, and if you guess wrong, there will be consequences.

(OK, that last one isn't very charitable, but the original version is totally incomprehensible, and given how many revisions this has gone through, I can only assume intentionally so.)

If you don't want to discuss the actual policy, as you have made clear in the original post, then so be it. But at least be honest about what it is, instead of dancing around it in the hopes the users don't figure it out.