Timeline for We need to stop hoping for change in, or help from, SO Inc
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| Dec 8, 2022 at 23:37 | comment | added | starball Mod | Related (I think): Make public Q&A a nonprofit. | |
| S Jan 29, 2020 at 17:01 | history | bounty ended | gnat | ||
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| S Jan 24, 2020 at 7:43 | history | notice added | gnat | Reward existing answer | |
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| S Jan 20, 2020 at 13:26 | history | notice added | user630245 | Draw attention | |
| Jan 20, 2020 at 9:54 | comment | added | Vishwa | @terdon I'm not sure on that, we may be authors on our content, but they have the authority. remember that they transferred old content from previous license to newer license without author permissions? "Do you have a way forward that can avoid those possibilities", for the moment, *No*(sadly). My comments doesn't say that I dun agree with you, I stopped participating while back, right on Monica, Sara Chipps incident. haven't contributed so far, thought on coming back few times, seems I cannot make up my mind to come back | |
| Jan 20, 2020 at 9:13 | comment | added | terdon | @Vishwa they don't own the content, we do. They have a license to the content, that's different. But yes, this company could indeed ignore the license, I wouldn't put it past them. So what are you suggesting? Do you have a way forward that can avoid those possibilities? I don't. That's why I posted this. | |
| Jan 20, 2020 at 7:13 | comment | added | Mast | @Vishwa Should anything drastic like that happen, I'm sure there will be people proving the data-dumps that have already been made for free. It isn't like 10 years of history will be going down the drain if a pay-wall arises (although that would definitely be the moment to stop contributing). | |
| Jan 20, 2020 at 3:29 | comment | added | Vishwa | "As long as the content I create is publicly available to everyone and not behind a paywall, as long as I can feel that my work benefits others and not only the company, I can live with it.", since SE has ownership of our content, from the beginning, they can do whatever they want with it. what if they decided to put members only area for reading answers? maybe not all of them, but the top 10% of best answers? what then? you provided your answer for free, but people cannot see it unless they pay? which you wouldn't get even a penny for? | |
| Jan 20, 2020 at 3:25 | comment | added | Vishwa | "I don't know how long I will be staying, I doubt it will be long and I fully expect SE to remove my diamond any day now.", you shouldn't let someone kicks you out just because you liked what you do, while you do what you love, you should make your own way of going, dun wait until they strip you out and kick in the bootay... it's not worth it | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 17:20 | answer | added | xenoid | timeline score: 4 | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 16:41 | comment | added | terdon | @EJoshuaS oh, believe me, I know. Which is why I am suggesting we refuse to follow the rules we object to. If they don't like it, they will have to kick us out. I will no longer help them put a good face on their actions. AL I'm saying here is that it is pointless to ask them to change. They won't. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 15:44 | comment | added | EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine | What makes the last one even worse is that they're now even removing the promised moderator discussion on featuring posts. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 15:43 | comment | added | EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine | It's hard to idly stand by and watch them fire good moderators for no apparent reason, unilaterally relicense the content we worked so hard to produce, and abruptly strip us of important tools and features. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 15:38 | comment | added | EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine | They're not absentee landlords - they're actively messing with us. It would be much easier to maintain the kind of attitude you talk about if they didn't periodically come by to pull some dirty trick on us or otherwise stir the pot. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 14:48 | answer | added | Sextus Empiricus | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 11:35 | comment | added | user630245 | "I don't know how long I will be staying, I doubt it will be long and I fully expect SE to remove my diamond any day now." I'd prefer to let myself out, instead of being stripped naked and booted out, so to speak. But to each their own. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 11:12 | answer | added | Abandon all hope | timeline score: 29 | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 8:14 | answer | added | yo' | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 6:22 | comment | added | V2Blast | "Forget feature requests, they're ignored anyway." - I do slightly disagree with this one point... Well, the company as a whole might be averse to any real change, but at the least it seems people like Yaakov do do what they can, in what limited capacity they can. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 3:04 | answer | added | ChrisW | timeline score: 8 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 20:04 | history | edited | jscs | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 18, 2020 at 19:39 | answer | added | jscs | timeline score: 17 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 19:14 | answer | added | GhostCat | timeline score: 22 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 17:05 | answer | added | user1306322 | timeline score: 67 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 15:50 | comment | added | terdon | @RebeccaJ.Stones heh, yes. Makes sense though. The other question is about change from where we were. Mine is about where we are now, and how it is unlikely to change back to where we were. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 15:47 | comment | added | Rebecca J. Stones | I'm reflecting how different the word "change" is in two recent questions: We need to stop hoping for change in or help from SO inc vs. SE seems pretty set in their path to change the sites as we know them and the testimony of former employees are proof of that. | |
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| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:58 | answer | added | Resistance Is Futile | timeline score: 21 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:14 | answer | added | Suvitruf - Andrei Apanasik | timeline score: 16 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:10 | answer | added | StephenG - Help Ukraine | timeline score: 45 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:04 | comment | added | user1306322 | For those of us who want to stay, this is the only way. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 13:56 | comment | added | ChatterOne | I agree because if they ignore us we should ignore them. Sometimes we'll cross them by the hall and we'll say "...'ssup?". And that's it. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 13:40 | answer | added | Mad Scientist | timeline score: 16 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 13:38 | answer | added | Нет войне | timeline score: 9 | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 13:13 | history | edited | terdon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 18, 2020 at 13:03 | comment | added | terdon | @RageFoxx a dialog requires two sides. There is only one here, the other side isn't taking part. I don't like this any more than you do. I don't know how long I will be staying, I doubt it will be long and I fully expect SE to remove my diamond any day now. All I'm saying is that we need to accept that they don't care, they're not listening and no amount of raging will achieve anything at all. So, we do our own thing. If they don't like it, they can do their own dirty work, I will no longer be helping. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 13:01 | comment | added | JFoxx64 | Playing into their hands is not oft the response of one being besieged. For many, they already have reached their limit, as for the others, they know the direction to go but that doesn't mean they can't request change. But to entirely stop trying to hold a dialogue is disingenuous to the reason many people stay. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 12:58 | history | edited | terdon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 18, 2020 at 12:53 | history | asked | terdon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |