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7I downvoted this because, not because I don't want Monica to be reinstated (if she wants), but because I think this isn't constructive now. They are listening now. Use this chance for incremental improvement over continuous complaints is what I think is most useful now. (So no automatic/suspicious stuff, just that I'm reading fast)User that hates AI– User that hates AI2020-02-19 22:26:48 +00:00Commented Feb 19, 2020 at 22:26
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8Maybe you read it too fast and missed the word credible or perhaps my post wasn't clear enough, I am a bit old fashioned, I know, let me try the new fashion: Press F for doubt. F F F F F F.chx– chx2020-02-19 22:41:08 +00:00Commented Feb 19, 2020 at 22:41
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15(It's "X to doubt" or "Press F to pay respects".) Anyhow, upvoted! The Monica C. question is critically symbolic to anyone who's paid much attention in the past few months. If Teresa can convince Corporate to reinstate her (even if Monica doesn't accept the offer) then there is distinct hope. Otherwise? It's hard to say.Seldom 'Where's Monica' Needy– Seldom 'Where's Monica' Needy2020-02-19 22:48:42 +00:00Commented Feb 19, 2020 at 22:48
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8There has been a (legal) line drawn under this, so don't expect to hear any more from SE Inc on the subject. Endlessly demanding more from SE Inc is pointless. If Teresa wants to take up Monicas' offer, then great, but don't expect to hear about that either.chris neilsen– chris neilsen2020-02-19 23:08:15 +00:00Commented Feb 19, 2020 at 23:08
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14for some of us that is the problem (MC Situation). They didn't follow their own rules?!?!?! So what are we now to expect them to follow something else...until the decide again to not because <whatever excuse needs to go here>?!?!? It called lack of integrity/trust which is not given but earned. As everyone else has literally stated, actions speak louder than words. This stuff is not rocket science........just common sense.Sorceri– Sorceri2020-02-19 23:26:35 +00:00Commented Feb 19, 2020 at 23:26
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5Monica's question is for what we as normal users can know, solved. Maybe not in the way we wanted it, but since there is a legal agreement between Monica and SE and most of it is confidential, we can't really hope for having anything better than that, not even some comment on the issue from Monica herself. Struggling at this as an user is pointless because both parts already have an agreement on the issue and are bound to it.Victor Stafusa– Victor Stafusa2020-02-20 05:48:49 +00:00Commented Feb 20, 2020 at 5:48
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13@VictorStafusa Monica has explicitly stated that she is still open to dialogue and waiting for the corporation to take appropriate steps that are outside the scope of the agreement (i.e. not prohibited by the agreement). The situation isn't closed, and nobody should throw Monica under the bus in this huge mess.vicky_molokh– vicky_molokh2020-02-20 09:30:28 +00:00Commented Feb 20, 2020 at 9:30
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@vicky_molokh Surely, nobody should throw Monica under the bus. However, although Monica can still talk to SE and vice-versa, it appears that neither one can talk anything further about the incident in public due to legal reasons, so there is no point demanding them to do so. If there is still something to be resolved on the issue, it is probably solely to be done by both the parties in private. Then, random users in the internet have no stake on this anymore, so let's move on.Victor Stafusa– Victor Stafusa2020-02-20 16:15:04 +00:00Commented Feb 20, 2020 at 16:15
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11@VictorStafusa Odds are high that a genuine dialogue can result in a mutually-agreed-upon revision of the agreement, the result of which we would see. There are also other actions (and statements) that are, as far as we have been told, not prevented by the agreement, nor would be possible to keep secret. So it's not like there's no way forward. It's that the Stack-Corp doesn't want to. So let's never use the word 'solved' as a descriptor of the current situation, because that implies stopping the pressure on the MC front (the bus-throwing I mentioned).vicky_molokh– vicky_molokh2020-02-20 17:31:32 +00:00Commented Feb 20, 2020 at 17:31
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