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    The Stack Overflow community is very intelligent, and can smell dishonesty from a mile away You'd like to think so but I'm not sure that's so, c.f. the way in which the CEO's apology was initially highly upvoted then downvoted. It's true that the community cares about tone and whether things seem to be written by a human (see also the "cluetrain manifesto"). Commented Feb 21, 2020 at 12:51
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    @ChrisW You'd like to think so but I'm not sure that's so OK, let me rephrase: "The Stack Overflow community is very intelligent... and too damn trusting for its own good." A prerequisite to investing hundreds of hours into something like this, for sure 😄 Commented Feb 21, 2020 at 13:51
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    @ScottSeidman many signs suggest the public Q&A part is not the biggest driver of revenue, possibly not even profitable on its own. The money is made in the Jobs and Teams products, it seems. A public Q&A nonprofit would continue to serve SO's commercial goals wherever it can, for sure, but would be somewhat more independent and protected from whatever abuses the sales team might otherwise inflict on it down the line if revenue doesn't develop according to the owners' desires Commented Feb 21, 2020 at 13:53
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    @Pekka and yet without the public Q&A the jobs section becomes your average recruitment board, without its privileged place and its massive pool of eyes that are 100% in the developer market. There is some serious synergy and it'd be dumb for somebody to pretend it does not exist. I mean, fuck, I found my last two jobs through SO. Commented Feb 21, 2020 at 14:21
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    @Pekka we're in agreement, I was just saying that the relationship is more symbiotic than the last few months' attitude from management would lead people to believe. Commented Feb 21, 2020 at 14:30
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    Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. Tried to... intelligently leave some of the highlights that wouldn't seem out of place but this got a bit too into the weeds for comments. :) Commented Feb 21, 2020 at 22:38
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    This is a fantastic well written post. I basically have turn away from the community as a whole because the person delivering the message could not be take seriously in my view. At any rate, I guess I will peek in from time to time. Commented Feb 24, 2020 at 14:56
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    @Pekka do you know if there's an easy to browse archive of everything George Stocker said on Twitter about SE? Maybe a PDF or post or something? Commented Feb 24, 2020 at 19:49
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    @jrh I started archiving them in January for Rebecca Stones who is behind the Great Firewall, here but I'm waaaay behind. I might do an update at some point but can't promise an ETA Commented Feb 24, 2020 at 22:44
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    Yep. There are users who keep saying the Monica thing is a done deal and we should put it behind us. It's absolutely not. Settlements can be revised. The only path forward still involves that. And, as I keep saying, the people responsible for this mess need to be sacked. They're all out of chances. Commented Feb 27, 2020 at 10:57
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    I think the key metric here might be whether this new bs-free communication style is still present 6 months from new. Commented Feb 28, 2020 at 0:19
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    Also, expect a +500 rep from me as well on this brave, inspiring and visionary action. Commented Feb 29, 2020 at 21:30
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    @ChrisW: It wasn't very skillfully written. Ms. Chipps' posts were easy to see through, Fullerton more difficult, but to me it really stood out. Now, this post by Teresa Dietrich is skillfully written, to the extent that it sounds relatively genuine and upfront to me (or at least - I can't find obvious faults in it). Commented Feb 29, 2020 at 21:42
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    What is the Augias' stable of fiefdoms? My Google search for "augias stack overflow" returns this answer as the top result... Commented Mar 2, 2020 at 17:25
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    @Will It's a reference to one of the Labours of Heracles. Commented Mar 2, 2020 at 17:36