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2Side note: This answer may presume a certain level of knowledge about SE and the Meta community and might not make perfect sense to people who are unfamiliar with some of the referenced events. If something doesn't make sense I'm happy to clarify.Mithical– Mithical2020-11-16 19:44:47 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 19:44
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9my understanding based on events and what I've heard was that a number of departments had to fire people due to lack of funding, and the Series E? F? round they received a few weeks later helped keep the company afloat (or having to keep from making really tough decisions). Shog and Robert got caught up in that (I wouldn't be surprised if people who lacked the context but held the power didn't realize how crucial Shog was) and if they de-emphasize Area 51 (which it seems like they are) then Robert doesn't seem to be critical to their needs either.George Stocker– George Stocker2020-11-16 19:47:58 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 19:47
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1They'd never be able to tell us this, of course; but there are enough lines that we can read what's between them and draw conclusions.George Stocker– George Stocker2020-11-16 19:48:18 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 19:48
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4I actually understand most of your references just from my reading today, and Shog9/Robert. I read about a lot more than just Monica, which I think is really why this is a huge tragedy. It's like something is really wrong, something that you see happen to a lot of things that once started off as something really good and beautiful. But I hope things will get better, I'll keep an eye on things. And I'll check out Codidact, thanks, saw it referenced in another answer alsothe.Small.axe– the.Small.axe2020-11-16 19:49:54 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 19:49
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14@Mithical I think the hardest part for me to understand (and maybe cannot be fully understood due to NDA), is how Monica was treated even after this became a huge thing, even months later. How can someone be treated like that just for trying to clarify something for their own understanding? And isn't understanding the CoC vital to her role as a Mod? I do this all the time, just to make sure I fully understand what the other side is trying to convey, before I try responding or carrying out the instructions, etc. But why would Monica be seen as doing something wrong, by multiple people?the.Small.axe– the.Small.axe2020-11-16 20:27:22 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 20:27
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6And why would a company built entirely on the health of its community allow things to become like this? I'm sure things will be ok eventually, but at least right now, my mind keeps stumbling over how non-sensical all of this is.the.Small.axe– the.Small.axe2020-11-16 20:29:21 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 20:29
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10@the.Small.axe re: "How can someone be treated like that just for trying to clarify something for their own understanding?" - There are a lot of incomplete explanations of what exactly happened floating around (often stated as fact, and sometimes totally laughably wrong about Monica's position). There is a lot more agreement that Monica was treated unfairly than there is agreement that all she did was to ask for clarification.Bryan Krause– Bryan Krause2020-11-16 22:02:31 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 22:02
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@BryanKrause good point, and important to clarify. I read a little bit more from a post heather had made a while back.the.Small.axe– the.Small.axe2020-11-16 23:11:12 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 23:11
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1@the.Small.axe Yes, of all the thousands of words written on meta around this I think heather's post was one of the most productive in approach and honest in perspective and I'm glad you've read it, I would recommend it to anyone new to what went on here.Bryan Krause– Bryan Krause2020-11-16 23:19:17 +00:00Commented Nov 16, 2020 at 23:19
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1@the.Small.axe: One takeaway is to never ask a question without stating it is not a rhetorical question (unless it is, of course). Otherwise it might get misinterpreted.This_is_NOT_a_forum– This_is_NOT_a_forum2020-11-17 04:17:59 +00:00Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 4:17
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1"there are still a lot of unaddressed issues" would you happen to have a list?Mast– Mast2020-11-17 11:03:19 +00:00Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 11:03
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