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  • I read your "no longer supported post". I think your main point is what I had feared would happen from reading of the past year's events, but I was not sure if it was actually happening or how if somehow things had been "reconciled" and I just missed that post somewhere in Meta (I think I have my answer on that). Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 22:53
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    On a side note, to be honest, even though I've used this site 10+ years, this is my first time asking a question, and I was extremely surprised how easy it was for me to just go and post whatever. Easy as in, I figured there would be something walking me through a few basics of how Stack Overflow works, suggesting extensive searching for my answer first, maybe some things to expect if my question is considered a duplicate or a bad question, etc. I know there was a tutorial that I just skipped by reflex, and a small link on the side for "how to ask a good question". Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 22:59
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    I think I've picked up a bit on the culture of SE, but I know there is a lot to know and understand about how SE works, which is not really visible to new users when going to ask a question. Maybe I just missed that though, but maybe it shouldn't be missable. That might help mods out more, and I'm sure this has already been discussed, but just sharing my experience. I actually didn't even want to ask a question, I really wanted to post an answer to an already made post, to share how I felt, but didn't have enough rep. I was expecting this post to be deleted Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 23:01
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    I'm not sure why you would've expected this to be closed. It's well-written, concise, and pretty straightforward of a question. It's reasonably suitable to be on Meta Stack Exchange. There's really no secret handshake or hidden rules that exist when posting a question, we just want questions to be clear and understandable. Yours at least crosses that bar so we have a starting point for it to be well received. Commented Nov 17, 2020 at 23:18
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    This is a very nice summary of the underlying problems between the community and the company and yes, it shows that many of them haven't been solved really. But life goes on and we have to deal one way (acceptance) or another (move on) with it. At least the situation is clearer now than in 2019. Things have sobered up and we know much better what we got with the company and what we lost compared to the past. Everyone contributing now must be aware of the conditions of the network and leaving is always an option. Commented Nov 18, 2020 at 6:39
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    @Trilarion: I've decided that "moving on" isn't the right expression for this. This implies that both sides have had their chance to get what they've said off their chest and that we're in a space to hit the figurative reset button. What we actually have had is literal years of this kind of pattern. Sure, it's turning around. But it's turning about as fast as an icebreaker in Antarctica in mid-June with about half of its fuel. We've been promised that things would get better, and we can't feel that. Moving on sounds... incorrect. Commented Nov 18, 2020 at 6:49
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    @Trilarion: The engine will move on and the site will carry on, but I'm over this attitude of acquiescing. After looking at this I realized just how little the needle has felt like it's moved in a year and it's really a question of looking at progress. I'm hoping that leadership doesn't decide to make more promises since it just doesn't feel like they're showing that they care. The little gestures or updates here and there are good, but again, I see those as token gestures in the wake of some massive craters that don't get explained. Commented Nov 18, 2020 at 6:59
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    Definitely it's not that both sides got something of equal size. If anything the company won (for a certain definition of winning) decisively because they have it their way and the network still runs. Yes, they made a couple of heavily downvoted appearances and mods had to work overtime but that's a comparably small price to pay really. With moving on I rather associate leaving for good before one becomes bitter. In the current context it also may be a slower motion. Drifting on maybe. Commented Nov 18, 2020 at 7:06