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8"No one likes your stupid vote arrow changes either." That is not true. You may not see the upvotes (problem of the software running the platform) but they are there in the aggregate score (that is sometimes called votes misleadingly). Approximately 25% of meta users seem to like the new arrows style.NoDataDumpNoContribution– NoDataDumpNoContribution2023-06-01 03:44:30 +00:00Commented Jun 1, 2023 at 3:44
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3So therefore 75% don’t like it. Besides, at least for me, a downvote is a stronger level of disagreement than an upvote is of agreement @TrilarionStarship– Starship2023-06-01 10:19:14 +00:00Commented Jun 1, 2023 at 10:19
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4Also it is only 16%Starship– Starship2023-06-01 10:39:46 +00:00Commented Jun 1, 2023 at 10:39
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11@Trilarion Umm, reality check: We are graduating the updated button styling for vote arrows is currently on the 11th place in the "hall of shame" least popular discussion-tagged threads of all time in the history of meta.se. It went down like a lead zeppelin after launch and has already passed epic historical fiascos like "SE tries to start audio" and the HNQ remake. That's no small feat, you have to actively try to be bad to be a runner-up for top 10 worst ideas ever.Lundin– Lundin2023-06-01 14:56:44 +00:00Commented Jun 1, 2023 at 14:56
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8Keep in mind that lots of the up-votes on that thread came when it was actually posted as a discussion thread for community feedback before launching.Lundin– Lundin2023-06-01 14:58:16 +00:00Commented Jun 1, 2023 at 14:58
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1@Lundin You're right, it gets a place in the bottom top ten. But still my point was that it's not true that nobody likes it, which is the case. You know as well as me that the score is approval rate times popularity. Large number of votes mean that many people are interested in that topic. Still for me the relevant quantity is U/(U+D) and U+D, not U-D. The percentage was just from my memory. Whatever people say, there are a certain number of people that actually seem to like the new vote button style. Why is it so difficult to admit that?NoDataDumpNoContribution– NoDataDumpNoContribution2023-06-01 17:50:47 +00:00Commented Jun 1, 2023 at 17:50
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6Maybe by "blend of trust", what they mean is that they have put what remains of the community's trust into a blender.kaya3– kaya32023-06-04 23:59:37 +00:00Commented Jun 4, 2023 at 23:59
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@Trilarion It's not about whether people like or dislike it, it's about fiddling while Rome burns. And that has been the MO of SE Inc for years - pushing through changes that nobody (sorry, "very few" since hyperbole seems to offend you) from the community has requested, while completely ignoring things the community has asked for.Ian Kemp - SE killed by LLMs– Ian Kemp - SE killed by LLMs2023-06-05 11:37:35 +00:00Commented Jun 5, 2023 at 11:37
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@IanKemp I'm just not a fan of hyperboles.NoDataDumpNoContribution– NoDataDumpNoContribution2023-06-05 11:53:20 +00:00Commented Jun 5, 2023 at 11:53
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@kaya3 you might be right...it would certainly be true at leastStarship– Starship2023-06-05 17:04:42 +00:00Commented Jun 5, 2023 at 17:04
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The crazy thing about the vote buttons is that a trivial change, which they have already done (or perhaps "defaulted to") on this very page (Meta SE), which is to use contrasting colors for the clicked vote button would solve 80% or more of the problem (100% of it for me, but I know there are other complaints, so let's go with 80%). If they can't respond and handle the easy stuff, and they won't (obviously) handle the actual truly controversial stuff (AI), it does not look good.manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact– manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact2023-07-03 15:04:24 +00:00Commented Jul 3, 2023 at 15:04
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