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    Can the flags cast (binding/not-binding) be logged somewhere that humans can review: That should be a MUST Commented Sep 18, 2025 at 17:25
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    Logging/transparency: As part of the release of this feature we're going to be pairing it with a dashboard that lists recently-deleted spam posts along with information about whether it was caught by this anti-spam measure, which we'll talk more about later. Initially we'll be limiting access of this dashboard to staff as we monitor its first efforts, but we'd like for moderators to have access to it as well. We've also had discussions around opening it up to 10kers or other network power users (Charcoal people immediately come to mind), but we're not ready to commit to that just yet. Commented Sep 18, 2025 at 18:08
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    Overlap with Smokey: We had a lot of discussion about this. In the end, we determined that if Smokey's quite confident it's spam (e.g. 3 automatic flags from Metasmoke, which is how many get raised in non-spam-wave, but high confidence, scenarios) and we're at least quite confident it's spam (enough to raise a non-binding flag), then we're comfortable with it being deleted instantly. Doubling-up with Charcoal's confidence is something we're okay with, but we'll be monitoring closely. Commented Sep 18, 2025 at 18:09
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    @Spevacus It probably comes down to how many false positives that get auto-deleted there will be and how many falsely deleted posts we all on average want to tolerate. Probably it's better to not instantly kill some non-spam posts and let some spam posts live longer than the other way around. One would need to see it in action and maybe do some quality control, which users can't do in case of deleted content. Commented Sep 19, 2025 at 6:35
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    @Spevacus Why would you prevent mods from accessing it initially, though? I can understand wanting to limit access but mods are more likely to have the time to actually review and act on the list than staff will. Commented Sep 19, 2025 at 15:05