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| Jul 10, 2019 at 15:42 | comment | added | TylerH | @TimPost I honestly don't think David's comment is hostile at all. Certainly, it's not as hostile as the underlying message of meta.stackoverflow.com/a/386617/2756409 - Take David's reply for example; you have a really difficult job, bridging two groups that want to (apparently) go two completely different directions. What I observe, though, is you often failing to take one group's preferences or feelings into consideration, and then calling them hostile/combative when they complain about that. Invalidating the feelings of your community that way is, like, an EQ response of 0. | |
| Jul 4, 2019 at 15:39 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | This is a nice piece, and I appreciate you writing it. I remember reading your "brain dump", and remember thinking that it hadn't occurred to me that our industry had changed. | |
| Jul 4, 2019 at 6:55 | comment | added | David Arenburg | TBH, I have a special issue with your particular approach regarding the welcoming policy, in particular this. I feel that unlike Shog, for instance, you are pushing this welcoming stuff at all cost without consulting the community, without any sentiments. I was quite surprised that you decided to answer this question in somewhat more civil manner, but I guess my grudge was speaking, rather my brain. Now that I look at the comment, it indeed looks pretty rude- sorry. | |
| Jul 4, 2019 at 3:54 | comment | added | user50049 | @DavidArenburg You said "This "brilliance" stuff- I don't buy it. It just sounds to me that you are trying to make the veteran users feel good about themselves so you could keep pushing your "welcoming" agenda." Did you really mean to sound that hostile and combative? Honest question. | |
| Jul 3, 2019 at 20:47 | comment | added | David Arenburg | This "brilliance" stuff- I don't buy it. It just sounds to me that you are trying to make the veteran users feel good about themselves so you could keep pushing your "welcoming" agenda. I think all the fuss biols to lazy people that don't want to invest their time in order to solve their problems, while instead, trying to waste ours for free. Posting dupes because one doesn't know the termonology is totally fine, but if I can take ones questions title and copy/paste it into Google and get 10 relevant results, that just mean that he is lazy and rude, which in turn makes me much less welcoming | |
| Jul 1, 2019 at 23:01 | comment | added | Don't Panic | I'm glad you answered, @Tim. I was thinking about upset meta commenters when I wrote the question, but I know that can't feel good from your perspective either. Your job looks impossible to me, honestly. Trying to figure out how to satisfy the various competing interests you're faced with must mean constantly dealing with unpleasant "lesser of two evils" type choices. I admire you for being able to do it. | |
| Jul 1, 2019 at 20:33 | comment | added | Cindy Meister | @TimPost I followed the link - that somewhat pre-dates my time here... But the points under discussion (quality, nice/welcoming, etc.) do not seem to have changed - just the tone is more civilized; there seems to be less friction. Question to you: Do you still feel the same about the topics, or has your viewpoint on what is acceptable quality shifted in the last five years? | |
| Jul 1, 2019 at 16:44 | comment | added | Scott Hannen | I've only been around a few years. When I hear stuff about mass exodus, etc., I think, that sucks, I just got here. I don't think anything that bad will happen. Things go off course, courses get corrected. It's okay. Reading this increases my confidence. I believe in venting and complaining some, but what matters is that we always keep an eye on the path forward. | |
| Jul 1, 2019 at 16:21 | comment | added | user50049 | @StoryTeller There's a lot I didn't write in there because, well, there's just way more to write than space or time to do it, but it's not a roadmap. It's just why I haven't looked for another job. I certainly know that people must have their needs validated and (more often than not) met. And this isn't really a space to talk about how things are flawed, it's just my take on my own purpose and usefulness. | |
| Jul 1, 2019 at 16:16 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | "an organization with many teams and stakeholders where things just naturally take .. longer" This may not really be a good thing. Maybe the organization should try to remain as agile as possible. | |
| Jul 1, 2019 at 16:09 | comment | added | StoryTeller - Unslander Monica | An implicit assumption I read in your analogy is that the brilliant ones will stick here for passion alone, and so nothing needs to be done for their sake. I... don't think it's grounded in reality so much. But here's a +1 for carrying the weight of both worlds on your shoulders, can't be easy. | |
| Jul 1, 2019 at 16:09 | comment | added | Andras Deak -- Слава Україні | Could you please try to clarify what you mean by "a place where those that aim for competence thrive and feel a sense of belonging, comfortably, somewhat in the shadows of those predisposed to brilliance"? With all the baggage around the subject I'd rather make sure I understand what you're saying. Are those who "aim for competence" vs. "are predisposed to brilliance" actually "new people we want to draw in with all the welcoming things and new contributor indicators" vs. "the people who have been making the site a success all these years", respectively? Or do you mean something else? | |
| Jul 1, 2019 at 16:03 | history | answered | user50049 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |