Timeline for answer to 2020 Developer Survey results feedback by Andy
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| Jun 2, 2020 at 13:57 | comment | added | TylerH | @CodyGray That's still not spam. Take a look at this email section of your profile. If you have that second option turned on, then you are going to receive such content; important announcements are in a separate email category. Now, if you have that second option turned off and still got such an email, then that's a valid bug report. But it doesn't make it garbage (keep in mind, one man's trash is another man's treasure). | |
| Jun 2, 2020 at 11:54 | comment | added | You Old Fool | Am I the only one who sees a giant middle finger flipping me off when looking at that graph? | |
| Jun 2, 2020 at 1:48 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | @TylerH I recently got an email from that company that did not feel at all "welcoming"; in fact, it felt like a slap in the face. I have the option to receive emails from Stack Overflow turned on so that I might receive important announcements. I never intended to receive garbage like this. I think it's completely fair to call it "spam" when SO blasts gobs of long-established users with tips on how to use the site because they've asked a question in the last year. | |
| Jun 1, 2020 at 18:29 | comment | added | TylerH | @CodyGray "I certainly do not see why someone would find spam to be welcoming" I'm sure, phrased that way, 100% of respondents would agree. But that's a mis-framing of the issue; the emails are not spam; they're sent to registered users who are opted into emails (or have not opted out), are directly relevant to the site sending the email, the mailing list isn't shared with other parties/external companies, etc. Calling these emails spam is... highly inaccurate with regard to what spam is. tl;dr Just because you don't want to receive an email doesn't mean that email is spam. | |
| Jun 1, 2020 at 10:04 | comment | added | AncientSwordRage | @CodyGray based on the (now) linked email, the people who find it welcoming as the sort who may have forgotten about SO, and then been 'welcomed back' by being reminded via email... Thats probably not common among people who would come back anyway. | |
| May 30, 2020 at 1:56 | history | edited | Cody GrayMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
I agree with Jason's decision to move his response to a different answer. But I still think it is useful and reasonable to add a link to the response, in recognition of the extremes to which we're pushing the humble Q&A engine here.
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| May 28, 2020 at 17:35 | comment | added | rene | Well @CodyGray, who could have thought that. Looking at those samples we can conclude that our mutual distaste of emails and constant push to get less of them is actually driving people away. On the plus side, they didn't mention hand written letters ... | |
| May 28, 2020 at 10:41 | comment | added | Braiam | @JasonPunyon can the word analysis be done in two words groups, with synonyms? It would be more expensive/complex, but more illustrative of what people were thinking of. | |
| May 28, 2020 at 10:36 | comment | added | Braiam | "Where does the "respondents are twice as likely to say they feel more welcome than less welcome" come from?" Are we comparing against the last survey? That's the only way to establish a benchmark/denominator. | |
| May 28, 2020 at 6:48 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @CodyGray " "word clustering" method of interpretation is misleading" It's certainly not the same as meaning. Somebody with enough time to read the thousands of free form answers to this one question would probably come up with a meaningful result, but the word cluster alone should not get too much importance. | |
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| May 28, 2020 at 1:08 | comment | added | LinkBerest - SO sold our work | I also just realized I did not take the survey this year (they finally added educator too :\ ) - so unwelcoming = people who found it "so unwelcoming they skipped the survey entirely but that [the answers you gave in your clustering] would have been their answer to why it was less welcoming" needs to be considered as well (since there are less results then usual) @JasonPunyon | |
| May 28, 2020 at 0:36 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | The number-one word used by folks who feel more welcomed was emails? If that's implying that somehow people feel that emails are welcoming, well let's just say that comes as a major shock to me. I find emails to be one of the most annoying things that a site can do to me. I certainly do not see why someone would find spam to be welcoming. This may, therefore, suggest that the "word clustering" method of interpretation is misleading, if not outright wrong. | |
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| May 27, 2020 at 23:43 | comment | added | LinkBerest - SO sold our work | As someone in the less welcome group I will just state that all the reasons you quoted happened as a direct result of SE trying (and failing) to be welcoming (M was fired due to over-reaction on a "welcoming issue" at the least) so based on your data I don't see what you are trying to say @JasonPunyon. Note, its been at least 5 years with the welcoming issue or maybe I justl had more hope back then | |
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| May 27, 2020 at 19:40 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | The intention of mentioning it might be some kind of confirmation that SO is on the right track. I guess it does not include some concrete goals achieved. It's only a relative statement. Feeling more welcome could include still feeling not very welcome. | |
| May 27, 2020 at 14:50 | history | answered | AndyMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
