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high signal to low noise is what people are after, not a low signal to high noise
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There's a myriad of reasons why I think this specific idea here would not be an improvement. Yet, going through the motions of reciting and countering and counter-countering them all has been done to death already. However, I'll take this opportunity to say something that needs to be said to all these ideas lately...

Stop Frankenstein'ing a Dead Horse

What you describe just isn't Stack Overflow.

Outside of the Meta SO bubble, and outside of the Hate SO bubble, SO is appreciated for exactly what it is. That includes double-edged features that lead to perceived toxicity on one hand but also the high quality on the other. And the lowhigh signal-to-noise that this brings is still why the silent majority values SO.

That there is something like SO – with this and that radically changed – that might work better these days frankly does not matter for SO itself. When cars gained traction and started competing against horses, you would not have brought your trusted old crock to the chop shop to replace his legs with wheels. When airplanes took off, you would not have bolted wings to your ride.*

There is still some mileage left in that nag as it is. Let those that still find value in this accompany it on its last chores.
Let the poor thing go out with peace, grace, style, and all the legs it was meant to have.

You are not here to serve SO|SE [Inc]

What you describe won't save Stack Overflow.

At least not the SO why we were all here. The SO that is not The Brand, or The Company Formerly Known as SE Inc but now SO or maybe Stack or Whatever, or StAIck Overflow, or ….
No, the SO that had actual experts (almost all gone), and enthusiast programmers (GIMME! is not enthusiasm), and desirable knowledge (poor, poor data dumps), and lowa high signal to noise (noise! Noise! N̶̤̂ō̷̹̗i̵͚̚s̴̡̛͂e̶̖͙͛͝!), and whathaveyou. What is left of that is barely enough to limp on. It's definitely not enough to go for a sprint in even a vaguely different direction.

What you maybe can save is SO the Prosus investment. What you maybe can save is SO the symbol of toxicity. What you maybe can save is SO the DNS entry.
And I really do not see why you would want to save those unless you are paid for it.

So please – please, please, please – remember that you here because you are all competent, and diligent, and motivated people. You are here because SO/SE served you.
You can do great stuff. You can do useful stuff. Don't waste this on trying to revive a dead horse by chopping off its legs and bolting airplane wings on it.

*I realise that some people did and do. Just look at the result and let's be done with that.

There's a myriad of reasons why I think this specific idea here would not be an improvement. Yet, going through the motions of reciting and countering and counter-countering them all has been done to death already. However, I'll take this opportunity to say something that needs to be said to all these ideas lately...

Stop Frankenstein'ing a Dead Horse

What you describe just isn't Stack Overflow.

Outside of the Meta SO bubble, and outside of the Hate SO bubble, SO is appreciated for exactly what it is. That includes double-edged features that lead to perceived toxicity on one hand but also the high quality on the other. And the low signal-to-noise that this brings is still why the silent majority values SO.

That there is something like SO – with this and that radically changed – that might work better these days frankly does not matter for SO itself. When cars gained traction and started competing against horses, you would not have brought your trusted old crock to the chop shop to replace his legs with wheels. When airplanes took off, you would not have bolted wings to your ride.*

There is still some mileage left in that nag as it is. Let those that still find value in this accompany it on its last chores.
Let the poor thing go out with peace, grace, style, and all the legs it was meant to have.

You are not here to serve SO|SE [Inc]

What you describe won't save Stack Overflow.

At least not the SO why we were all here. The SO that is not The Brand, or The Company Formerly Known as SE Inc but now SO or maybe Stack or Whatever, or StAIck Overflow, or ….
No, the SO that had actual experts (almost all gone), and enthusiast programmers (GIMME! is not enthusiasm), and desirable knowledge (poor, poor data dumps), and low signal to noise (noise! Noise! N̶̤̂ō̷̹̗i̵͚̚s̴̡̛͂e̶̖͙͛͝!), and whathaveyou. What is left of that is barely enough to limp on. It's definitely not enough to go for a sprint in even a vaguely different direction.

What you maybe can save is SO the Prosus investment. What you maybe can save is SO the symbol of toxicity. What you maybe can save is SO the DNS entry.
And I really do not see why you would want to save those unless you are paid for it.

So please – please, please, please – remember that you here because you are all competent, and diligent, and motivated people. You are here because SO/SE served you.
You can do great stuff. You can do useful stuff. Don't waste this on trying to revive a dead horse by chopping off its legs and bolting airplane wings on it.

*I realise that some people did and do. Just look at the result and let's be done with that.

There's a myriad of reasons why I think this specific idea here would not be an improvement. Yet, going through the motions of reciting and countering and counter-countering them all has been done to death already. However, I'll take this opportunity to say something that needs to be said to all these ideas lately...

Stop Frankenstein'ing a Dead Horse

What you describe just isn't Stack Overflow.

Outside of the Meta SO bubble, and outside of the Hate SO bubble, SO is appreciated for exactly what it is. That includes double-edged features that lead to perceived toxicity on one hand but also the high quality on the other. And the high signal-to-noise that this brings is still why the silent majority values SO.

That there is something like SO – with this and that radically changed – that might work better these days frankly does not matter for SO itself. When cars gained traction and started competing against horses, you would not have brought your trusted old crock to the chop shop to replace his legs with wheels. When airplanes took off, you would not have bolted wings to your ride.*

There is still some mileage left in that nag as it is. Let those that still find value in this accompany it on its last chores.
Let the poor thing go out with peace, grace, style, and all the legs it was meant to have.

You are not here to serve SO|SE [Inc]

What you describe won't save Stack Overflow.

At least not the SO why we were all here. The SO that is not The Brand, or The Company Formerly Known as SE Inc but now SO or maybe Stack or Whatever, or StAIck Overflow, or ….
No, the SO that had actual experts (almost all gone), and enthusiast programmers (GIMME! is not enthusiasm), and desirable knowledge (poor, poor data dumps), and a high signal to noise (noise! Noise! N̶̤̂ō̷̹̗i̵͚̚s̴̡̛͂e̶̖͙͛͝!), and whathaveyou. What is left of that is barely enough to limp on. It's definitely not enough to go for a sprint in even a vaguely different direction.

What you maybe can save is SO the Prosus investment. What you maybe can save is SO the symbol of toxicity. What you maybe can save is SO the DNS entry.
And I really do not see why you would want to save those unless you are paid for it.

So please – please, please, please – remember that you here because you are all competent, and diligent, and motivated people. You are here because SO/SE served you.
You can do great stuff. You can do useful stuff. Don't waste this on trying to revive a dead horse by chopping off its legs and bolting airplane wings on it.

*I realise that some people did and do. Just look at the result and let's be done with that.

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MisterMiyagi
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There's a myriad of reasons why I think this specific idea here would not be an improvement. Yet, going through the motions of reciting and countering and counter-countering them all has been done to death already. However, I'll take this opportunity to say something that needs to be said to all these ideas lately...

Stop Frankenstein'ing a Dead Horse

What you describe just isn't Stack Overflow.

Outside of the Meta SO bubble, and outside of the Hate SO bubble, SO is appreciated for exactly what it is. That includes double-edged features that lead to perceived toxicity on one hand but also the high quality on the other. And the low signal-to-noise that this brings is still why the silent majority values SO.

That there is something like SO – with this and that radically changed – that might work better these days frankly does not matter for SO itself. When cars gained traction and started competing against horses, you would not have brought your trusted old crock to the chop shop to replace his legs with wheels. When airplanes took off, you would not have bolted wings to your ride.*

There is still some mileage left in that nag as it is. Let those that still find value in this accompany it on its last chores.
Let the poor thing go out with peace, grace, style, and all the legs it was meant to have.

You are not here to serve SO|SE [Inc]

What you describe won't save Stack Overflow.

At least not the SO why we were all here. The SO that is not The Brand, or The Company Formerly Known as SE Inc but now SO or maybe Stack or Whatever, or StAIck Overflow, or ….
No, the SO that had actual experts (almost all gone), and enthusiast programmers (GIMME! is not enthusiasm), and desirable knowledge (poor, poor data dumps), and low signal to noise (noise! Noise! N̶̤̂ō̷̹̗i̵͚̚s̴̡̛͂e̶̖͙͛͝!), and whathaveyou. What is left of that is barely enough to limp on. It's definitely not enough to go for a sprint in even a vaguely different direction.

What you maybe can save is SO the Prosus investment. What you maybe can save is SO the symbol of toxicity. What you maybe can save is SO the DNS entry.
And I really do not see why you would want to save those unless you are paid for it.

So please – please, please, please – remember that you here because you are all competent, and diligent, and motivated people. You are here because SO/SE served you.
You can do great stuff. You can do useful stuff. Don't waste this on trying to revive a dead horse by chopping off its legs and bolting airplane wings on it.

*I realise that some people did and do. Just look at the result and let's be done with that.