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| Jan 14 at 6:31 | comment | added | Double Knot | @mudskipper usable means well-formed, intelligible, and discourse-eligible. Intensional grasp does not require extensional satisfaction... | |
| Jan 14 at 5:48 | comment | added | keshlam | An assertion declares a relationship between references. | |
| Jan 14 at 4:33 | comment | added | emesupap | @JoWehler assertion and reference are squarely within the realm of philosophy- Russell and Grice both treated them, and both are still discussed. The OP rambles, yes, but the topic, sharpened into a suitable question is perfectly fine | |
| Jan 13 at 18:07 | answer | added | Bumble | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jan 13 at 16:36 | answer | added | Speakpigeon | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jan 13 at 16:01 | comment | added | keshlam | @mudskipper: "The largest prime under 2^107 digits long", then. Or whatever limit you want to set. It exists, it's unknown and likely to be so for a while, but it's still a specific placeholder. | |
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| Jan 13 at 15:33 | comment | added | mudskipper | @DoubleKnot - "the largest prime number" is perfectly usable?? As in "the largest prime number does not exist" perhaps? But that assertion just means there is no largest prime, in other words that that noun phrase lacks any reference. | |
| Jan 13 at 13:09 | answer | added | Chris Degnen | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jan 13 at 12:40 | comment | added | J D | Given the (not entirely unfair) criticisms above, I've whittled it down to emphasis the important part of your post: the question. Clearly the relationship and uses of reference and assertion are questions for the philosophy of language. Feel free to roll back, but with 2 VTC and the tendency of readers who want you to cut to the chase, do so at own peril. Good luck! | |
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| Jan 13 at 12:37 | answer | added | J D | timeline score: 1 | |
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| Jan 13 at 10:37 | comment | added | David Gudeman | Adding to what @JoWehler, said, this forum is also not for telling us about your own theorizing. The rules expressly call such posts off-topic. Your analysis shows some promise; you seem to have talent for this kind of thinking. However, you are trying to build your own platform to get higher off the ground when there is a huge skyscraper right next door. Do some research on propositional logic and speech acts. That will at least get you to the elevator. | |
| Jan 13 at 8:10 | comment | added | Double Knot | “The largest prime number” is perfectly usable and eye-catching referential acts that do not license assertion. The mind can lock onto an object-presentation that has no satisfier, wherefore reference is an object-directed act, not a world-directed one. Reference invites existence, it does not assert it. A type-theoretic judgment is not just reference, it's assertoric. If reference implied assertion, falsehood would be impossible, and children learn what something is before learning what is true of it. Cognition must both stabilize objects of thought and evaluate their relation to reality... | |
| Jan 13 at 8:04 | answer | added | Mauro ALLEGRANZA | timeline score: 3 | |
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| Jan 13 at 7:30 | comment | added | Jo Wehler | Please note that this blog adresses questions and answers from the history of philosophy. It is not a place for lingusitic questions. For more specific advice please see the help section. | |
| Jan 13 at 7:21 | history | asked | Julius Karl Hamilton | CC BY-SA 4.0 |