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2@convert one cannot seriously make absolute statements about this - the question is how many American/NATO troops and weapons Ukraine may have. If one believes that Russian answer is 0, then there is no point in negotiating. Again, there may be some intermediate solutions, like non-American troops or troops of a non-nuclear NATO member. Negotiation is about nuances, rather than about pushing through one's poiunt of view.on the rough side of history– on the rough side of history2022-03-18 10:27:45 +00:00Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 10:27
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1I said ulikely, not imposible. The main reason for Russia to start this conflict, was to prevent any western trups, specially US ones, to be in Ukraine.convert– convert2022-03-18 10:35:28 +00:00Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 10:35
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6@RogerVadim "At least, this is what we can conclude from the public statements that were made by all the sides." The Russian statement was that they are defending DPR and LPR according to Article 51 of UN charter. Their claim got dismissed by International Court of Justice, which requested Russia to suspend all military actions.Tadeusz Kopec– Tadeusz Kopec2022-03-18 13:59:16 +00:00Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 13:59
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4@RogerVadim You made a claim about Russia's motivation of invasion (to prevent Ukraine enter NATO) which does not hold. Russia is not going to tolerate Ukraine as a state that is independent from Russia, as Vladimir Putin clearly said: "You want decommunization? Very well, this suits us just fine. But why stop halfway? We are ready to show what real decommunizations would mean for Ukraine."Tadeusz Kopec– Tadeusz Kopec2022-03-18 14:45:28 +00:00Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 14:45
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1@RogerVadim 1. "More mainstream line is that Russia wanted to prevent Ukraine entering NATO - if Ukraine had given guarantees that it wouldn't do such a thing, perhaps no war would take place. At least, this is what we can conclude from the public statements that were made by all the sides. Everything else is guessing." Who wrote this? 2. Of course defending LPR and DPR was a pretext. The motivation was put quite clearly in Putin's speech I linked - Ukrainian state was created by Russia so Russia has rights to Ukraine.Tadeusz Kopec– Tadeusz Kopec2022-03-18 15:07:21 +00:00Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 15:07
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