Timeline for answer to How do I reference a racially charged term without it getting deleted as a "racist slur"? by Pyrotechnical
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| Oct 16, 2020 at 14:58 | comment | added | Zeiss Ikon | @Pyrotechnical " we haven't had a compelling need to adopt alternate language for saltines because a group co-opted a previously used term to legally denigrate a group of people." Or perhaps the group referenced by "cracker" has never successfully been oppressed, and that's the only difference? | |
| Oct 14, 2020 at 16:37 | comment | added | KorvinStarmast | I don't get your comment on "legally denigrating a group of people" but that's not important. As I said, this is a bit of a 'reducto ad absurdum' and some crackers are not salted. 😎 (Water crackers and unsalted tops saltines are a regular feature in our cupboard). I was just tossin' that out there, no worries. (And I guess my 'food for thought' pun was a failure. Darnit). | |
| Oct 14, 2020 at 16:19 | comment | added | Pyrotechnical | I suppose if someone read something I wrote that included the word 'cracker' in context and was confused on the matter, I would feel comfortable knowing that there are ample alternative methods of saying the same thing without needing to resort to a term that someone views as extremely offensive. | |
| Oct 14, 2020 at 16:18 | comment | added | Pyrotechnical | @KorvinStarmast given that crackers are delicious, I'm going to say no. But I'll also point out that in context, it's pretty hard to confuse when somebody's discussing delicious salty wafers that convey peanut butter to my face versus a slur for white people. Furthermore, as a society in the US, we haven't had a compelling need to adopt alternate language for saltines because a group co-opted a previously used term to legally denigrate a group of people. | |
| Oct 14, 2020 at 16:03 | comment | added | KorvinStarmast | In an effort to toss in a bit of reducto ad absurdum for you to chew on: have you chosen to never again type the word cracker on RPGSE? I like where I think that you intended to go with your answer, but you may have taken an absolutist position that was not necessary to address the problem. Anyway, food for thought, may or may not be useful enough to revise your answer. | |
| Oct 13, 2020 at 20:33 | comment | added | Pyrotechnical | @Medix2 When writing that portion, I had given thought to the manner in which the Irish in the US today aren't really subjected to the sort of racism they suffered 100 years ago. I don't know any Irish slurs that were used back then, but I'm pretty sure whatever they are still aren't appropriate, reclaimed or not. Also, there's still plenty of anti-Irish beliefs prevalent in the UK. I'm not an expert on this, but it's all hard and requires us to try our best. I always feel it's contrary to the goal of 'trying our best' when we start mental gymnastics to let certain things slide. | |
| Oct 13, 2020 at 20:04 | comment | added | Exempt-Medic | I'm a little confused by the sentence "We don't work to undo that harm by deciding those words are ok again" when words can be reclaimed. Though perhaps " We" refers to " People outside the affected group"? Though even reclamation and reappropriation aren't unanimously supported by the affected groups, perhaps that a bit complicated then for this (or any) answer | |
| Oct 13, 2020 at 15:40 | history | answered | Pyrotechnical | CC BY-SA 4.0 |