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  • \$\begingroup\$ Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Apr 6, 2018 at 0:29
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    \$\begingroup\$ Regarding "If it was a given that an [IW] was always ... then proficiency would always apply.": I do not see how this implies that IWs cannot be considered Melee/Ranged weapons. All that clarification is saying is that if the DM rules IW is close to actual weapon they can treat it as that weapon (including prof bonus). Since you can't be proficient in "melee weapons" or "ranged weapons" then an IW doesn't get prof by default even if it is treated as a generic melee/ranged weapon. Thus the clarification is needed and does not imply what you are suggesting it does. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Apr 6, 2018 at 13:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ How would you reconcile the following from the PHB page 146: "Every weapon is classified as either melee or ranged."? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 11, 2019 at 20:51
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Medix2 Improvised represents a more specific rule than the general weapons. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 11, 2019 at 20:57
  • \$\begingroup\$ @NautArch, You point out that Improvised Weapons are not Ranged or Melee. But weapons may have several properties. E.g. a dagger has Finesse, Light, Range, Thrown propeprties. So, a melee weapon could have the improvised property (e.g. the leg of a bar stool as a club) or be ranged (e.g. thrown Holy Water), no? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 24, 2022 at 18:58