Timeline for answer to Why was Sméagol affected by the ring so fast, while both Frodo and Sam could handle it without immediately trying to choke each other? by Razar Campbell
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| Dec 29, 2023 at 23:24 | comment | added | Ian Thompson | @MichaelFoster --- Re. your theory based on the linked post: Frodo says putting on the Ring would give him the power to command Smeagol. However, Frodo does not wear the ring during the encounter outside Sammath Naur; nor does he ever command Smeagol to cast himself into the Fire. Smeagol fell: "... even as his eyes were lifted up to gloat on his prize, he stepped too far, toppled, wavered for a moment on the brink, and then with a shriek he fell." | |
| Dec 27, 2023 at 16:59 | comment | added | Ian Thompson | @MichaelFoster --- The Ring made him fall in, while he was holding ... the Ring? | |
| Dec 27, 2023 at 16:36 | comment | added | Michael Foster | @IanThompson The Ring made him fall in, after Frodo invoked it, according to the quote. I explain this further here. | |
| Dec 27, 2023 at 16:00 | comment | added | Ian Thompson | @MichaelFoster --- In the book, Gollum fell into the Crack of Doom. He didn't jump in, and Frodo had no power to make him do so. | |
| S Dec 27, 2023 at 13:51 | history | edited | LogicDictates | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Made less inflamatory, corrected Smèagol/Dèagol, other typos
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| S Dec 27, 2023 at 13:51 | history | suggested | Michael Foster | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Made less inflamatory, corrected Smèagol/Dèagol, other typos
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| Dec 27, 2023 at 13:31 | comment | added | Michael Foster | In the movie, maybe Gollum slipped accidentally, but in the book, he was clearly commanded to be cast into the fire for attacking Frodo again after attacking him on the way. "‘Begone, and trouble me no more! If you touch me ever again, you shall be cast yourself into the Fire of Doom.’" | |
| Dec 27, 2023 at 13:28 | review | Suggested edits | |||
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| Oct 7, 2022 at 21:06 | comment | added | Michael Richardson | Also, Frodo did not kill Gollum, not even accidentally. Gollum won and then slipped while doing a happy dance. | |
| Oct 7, 2022 at 20:49 | comment | added | Ian Thompson | Frodo doesn't send Sam away in the book. | |
| Sep 30, 2022 at 3:29 | comment | added | DavidW | I believe you are confused. Déagol found the Ring and merely wouldn't give it up. Sméagol attacked and killed him; there's no evidence the Ring made Déagol violent. | |
| Sep 30, 2022 at 3:10 | review | Late answers | |||
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| Sep 30, 2022 at 2:50 | history | answered | Razar Campbell | CC BY-SA 4.0 |