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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope[edit]
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions[edit]
Discussions awaiting closure[edit]
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| CfD | 0 | 2 | 75 | 0 | 77 |
| TfD | 0 | 1 | 30 | 0 | 31 |
| MfD | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 3 |
| FfD | 0 | 12 | 13 | 0 | 25 |
| AfD | 0 | 0 | 36 | 0 | 36 |
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 25 (9 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 24 (10 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 23 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 22 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 21 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 20 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 19 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 18 (14 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 17 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 16 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 15 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 14 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 13 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 12 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 11 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 8 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 6 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 3 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 21 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 17 (1 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD[edit]
Nomination procedure[edit]
Twinkle[edit]
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
Manual nominations[edit]
| I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
| II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types[edit]
| I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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| II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors[edit]
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2021 July 3|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}} to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.
Closing procedure[edit]
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories[edit]
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}} to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} - List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion but, unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes[edit]
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This does not include changing the plurality of a noun when such the distinction between topic and set categories is uncertain.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices[edit]
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names[edit]
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name[edit]
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request[edit]
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article[edit]
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions[edit]
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions[edit]
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.) If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
*REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 21:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC). Currently, there are 65 open requests ().
| Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here! Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests[edit]
Please add new requests at the top of the list.
- Category:Hochschule für Musik "Hanns Eisler" to Category:Hochschule für Musik Hanns Eisler Berlin – C2D: To match main article Hochschule für Musik Hanns Eisler Berlin Seanetienne (talk) 18:46, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viadrina European University faculty to Category:European University Viadrina faculty – C2D: To match main article European University Viadrina DuncanHill (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viadrina European University alumni to Category:European University Viadrina alumni – C2D: To match main article European University Viadrina DuncanHill (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viadrina European University to Category:European University Viadrina – C2D: To match main article European University Viadrina DuncanHill (talk) 15:41, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Elis to Category:Elis (regional unit) – C2D: Category:Ancient Elis matches Ancient Elis. It seems this category would be less ambiguous matching the article name Elis (regional unit). Gjs238 (talk) 04:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy pinging Gjs238. I don't think disambiguation is needed as Category:Ancient Elis is a sub category of Category:History of Elis and thus of Category:Elis. If Category:Elis were renamed its subcategories should be renamed as well. TSventon (talk) 12:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Gjs238 have you considered a RM or bold move of the article Elis (regional unit) over the current redirect Elis? – Fayenatic London 20:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy pinging Gjs238. I don't think disambiguation is needed as Category:Ancient Elis is a sub category of Category:History of Elis and thus of Category:Elis. If Category:Elis were renamed its subcategories should be renamed as well. TSventon (talk) 12:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Kaiserslautern University of Technology alumni to Category:Technical University of Kaiserslautern alumni – C2D.
Rathfelder I have added these 2 to your nomination below. TSventon (talk) 23:18, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:AS Nancy to Category:AS Nancy-Lorraine – C2D of AS Nancy-Lorraine. Paul Vaurie (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:AS Nancy players to Category:AS Nancy-Lorraine players
- REDIRECT Category:AS Nancy managers to Category:AS Nancy-Lorraine managers
- Category:AS Nancy templates to Category:AS Nancy-Lorraine templates
- Category:AS Nancy seasons to Category:AS Nancy-Lorraine seasons
- Category:AS Nancy matches to Category:AS Nancy-Lorraine matches
- Category:AS Nancy non-playing staff to Category:AS Nancy-Lorraine non-playing staff
- Category:University of Kaiserslautern to Category:Technical University of Kaiserslautern – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:TU Dresden faculty to Category:Dresden University of Technology faculty – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 19:40, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:TU Dresden alumni to Category:Dresden University of Technology alumni – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 19:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:TU Dresden to Category:Dresden University of Technology – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 19:37, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose these three; instead, revert undiscussed page move by Störm (talk · contribs) against earlier RM at Talk:Dresden University of Technology. – Fayenatic London 19:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Happy to park these until we can agree the title of the article. Rathfelder (talk) 10:05, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose these three; instead, revert undiscussed page move by Störm (talk · contribs) against earlier RM at Talk:Dresden University of Technology. – Fayenatic London 19:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:People educated at St Peter's Catholic School, Southbourne to Category:People educated at St Peter's Catholic School, Bournemouth – C2D per St Peter's Catholic School, Bournemouth. – Fayenatic London 17:46, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Natassa Theodoridou albums to Category:Natasa Theodoridou albums - C2D consistency with main article Natasa Theodoridou. Grk1011 (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Chongqing Dangdai Lifan F.C. to Category:Chongqing Liangjiang Athletic F.C. - C2D Club name change Footwiks (talk) 13:14, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Chongqing Dangdai Lifan F.C. seasons to Category:Chongqing Liangjiang Athletic F.C. seasons - C2D Club name change Footwiks (talk) 13:14, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Chongqing Lifan F.C. managers to Category:Chongqing Liangjiang Athletic F.C. managers - C2D Club name change Footwiks (talk) 13:14, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Chongqing Lifan F.C. players to Category:Chongqing Liangjiang Athletic F.C. players - C2D Club name change Footwiks (talk) 13:14, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Seiko Epson to Category:Epson – To reflect the common Epson branding. Ridwan97 (talk) 06:12, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial governors of Santa Fe de New Mexico to Category:Colonial governors of Santa Fe de Nuevo México – C2D per Santa Fe de Nuevo México Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:54, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Wendy audio samples to Category:Wendy (singer) audio samples – C2D per Wendy (singer) Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:50, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Nature Reserves of Rodrigues to Category:Nature reserves of Rodrigues – C2A, capitalization Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:05, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Flyovers in Salem to Category:Flyovers in Salem, Tamil Nadu – C2D per Salem, Tamil Nadu/Category:Salem, Tamil Nadu Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Grand Viziers to Category:Grand viziers – C2A/C2D per Grand vizier Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:56, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- This violates C2C with subcategories, ultimately due to inconsistencies in article space, e.g. List of Safavid Grand Viziers. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Opposed requests[edit]
- None currently
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- Category:Geography of South Georgia to Category:Geography of South Georgia (island) – C2D per South Georgia (island) Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Landforms of South Georgia to Category:Landforms of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Bodies of water of South Georgia to Category:Bodies of water of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Bays of South Georgia to Category:Bays of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Coves of South Georgia to Category:Coves of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Glaciers of South Georgia to Category:Glaciers of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Lakes of South Georgia to Category:Lakes of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Beaches of South Georgia to Category:Beaches of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Headlands of South Georgia to Category:Headlands of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Islands of South Georgia to Category:Islands of South Georgia (island) (not sure if this one works; can something be an island of an island? – I think so)
- @Good Olfactory: sometimes I think we take principles too far… – Fayenatic London 21:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london:, I am open to other options. As it stands, I'm afraid that there is a decent chance of it being misinterpreted as islands in the south part of the U.S. state of Georgia. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- What about Category:Islands of South Georgia (southern Atlantic)? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- The main article's Infobox names the archipelago as South Georgia group, so I suggest we use Category:Islands of the South Georgia group. – Fayenatic London 17:06, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Me too. This probably requires a full. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- For this whole "South Georgia" category list, or should most go ahead as nominated? The Rock formations category also includes locations not on the main island, e.g. Theodor Rock. That raises the question for the intermediate parent Category:Landforms of South Georgia, and Category:Geography of South Georgia. The rest of the listed categories probably cover just the island, and some say so explicitly e.g. Glaciers/ Mountains and hills. – Fayenatic London 08:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- It may make sense to take all of them to CfD. Note that Category:Geography of South Georgia is parented to the non-existing Category:South Georgia (island), there aren't apparently any other categories that might cause C2C issues in a full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- For this whole "South Georgia" category list, or should most go ahead as nominated? The Rock formations category also includes locations not on the main island, e.g. Theodor Rock. That raises the question for the intermediate parent Category:Landforms of South Georgia, and Category:Geography of South Georgia. The rest of the listed categories probably cover just the island, and some say so explicitly e.g. Glaciers/ Mountains and hills. – Fayenatic London 08:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Me too. This probably requires a full. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- The main article's Infobox names the archipelago as South Georgia group, so I suggest we use Category:Islands of the South Georgia group. – Fayenatic London 17:06, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- What about Category:Islands of South Georgia (southern Atlantic)? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london:, I am open to other options. As it stands, I'm afraid that there is a decent chance of it being misinterpreted as islands in the south part of the U.S. state of Georgia. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory: sometimes I think we take principles too far… – Fayenatic London 21:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Mountain passes of South Georgia to Category:Mountain passes of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Mountains and hills of South Georgia to Category:Mountains and hills of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Rock formations of South Georgia to Category:Rock formations of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Ports and harbours of South Georgia to Category:Ports and harbours of South Georgia (island)
- Let's try this differently. I have nominated Category:Islands of South Georgia for merging at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_May_21#Category:Islands_of_South_Georgia. Articles in Category:Rock formations of South Georgia about island rocks should be moved to Category:Rock formations of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. When all that is done, the remainder can be speedied. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Honey Bunny Film Series to Category:Honey Bunny film series – C2A, capitalization Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:50, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Would most likely be "(film series)" as that is the standard dab, but this category should really be deleted. There is only 1 film and even in the {{Honey Bunny Ka Jholmaal}} template no additional films listed. --Gonnym (talk) 00:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Feel free to nominate it for a full. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Would most likely be "(film series)" as that is the standard dab, but this category should really be deleted. There is only 1 film and even in the {{Honey Bunny Ka Jholmaal}} template no additional films listed. --Gonnym (talk) 00:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese Communist Party Committee Secretaries to Category:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries – C2A, capitalization per WP:JOBTITLES; C2C for the subcategories below Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:04, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Communist Party of China Committee Secretaries of Rehe Province to Category:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries of Rehe Province
- Category:Communist Party Secretaries of Xi'an to Category:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries of Xi'an
- Comment @Good Olfactory: for concision I would suggest Category:Communist Party secretaries of Foo for local-level categories. The full title is a bit cumbersome, and when the name of a location is present the words Chinese and committee can be implied when one talks of a party secretary. A main article link or category explanation could help if you find that the scope is not obvious enough. Place Clichy (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think the more concise names are eligible for speedying. If we speedily rename the head categories I can follow-up on the others with a full discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory: I would approve that: no objection to rename the head categories per C2D (as you may have noticed, I found identically-named main articles) while fixing capitalization and plural, but submit the local categories to full discussion to a less redundant name. Place Clichy (talk) 04:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think the more concise names are eligible for speedying. If we speedily rename the head categories I can follow-up on the others with a full discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment @Good Olfactory: for concision I would suggest Category:Communist Party secretaries of Foo for local-level categories. The full title is a bit cumbersome, and when the name of a location is present the words Chinese and committee can be implied when one talks of a party secretary. A main article link or category explanation could help if you find that the scope is not obvious enough. Place Clichy (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese Communist Party Deputy Committee Secretaries to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries – C2A, capitaliation per WP:JOBTITLES; C2C for the subcategories below Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:01, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of Sichuan to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Sichuan
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of Hebei to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Hebei
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of Jiangsu to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Jiangsu
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of Jiangxi to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Jiangxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of Shaanxi to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Shaanxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of Shanxi to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Shanxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of Yunnan to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Yunnan
- Category:Communist Party of China Deputy Committee Secretaries of Zhejiang to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Zhejian
- Comment: for concision I would suggest Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Foo for province-level categories, as above. Place Clichy (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: the usual shorter title is "Deputy Party Secretary", without "Communist" (e.g. usage within the articles Chinese Communist Party Deputy Committee Secretary, Chinese_Communist_Party_Committee_Secretary#Deputy_Party_Committee_Secretary, Jin Yinhuan), so I think the concise plural should be "Deputy party secretaries of Foo". – Fayenatic London 21:28, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- It is correct that, in context, in China or any other communist system, the often capitalized terms of "the Party" and "the Party Secretary" will unambiguously refer to the Communist Party. After all, these head articles were only recently renamed from simply (Deputy) Party Committee Secretary. However category names are supposed to be clearly understood without too many elements of context, that's why I thought that "Communist (deputy) party secretaries of (Shanghai)" is both easily understandable and concise enough, without being too ambiguous, e.g. with KMT holders of a similar function pre-1949. Place Clichy (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have processed the head categories and moved the rest here as Opposed. – Fayenatic London 22:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Moved all to a full discussion here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have processed the head categories and moved the rest here as Opposed. – Fayenatic London 22:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- It is correct that, in context, in China or any other communist system, the often capitalized terms of "the Party" and "the Party Secretary" will unambiguously refer to the Communist Party. After all, these head articles were only recently renamed from simply (Deputy) Party Committee Secretary. However category names are supposed to be clearly understood without too many elements of context, that's why I thought that "Communist (deputy) party secretaries of (Shanghai)" is both easily understandable and concise enough, without being too ambiguous, e.g. with KMT holders of a similar function pre-1949. Place Clichy (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: the usual shorter title is "Deputy Party Secretary", without "Communist" (e.g. usage within the articles Chinese Communist Party Deputy Committee Secretary, Chinese_Communist_Party_Committee_Secretary#Deputy_Party_Committee_Secretary, Jin Yinhuan), so I think the concise plural should be "Deputy party secretaries of Foo". – Fayenatic London 21:28, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: for concision I would suggest Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Foo for province-level categories, as above. Place Clichy (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Shia Muslim scholars to Category:Shia Muslim Islamic scholars, C2D per List of Shia Muslim Islamic scholars. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:54, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. Moved without discussion less than a month ago, so C2D does not apply. Also, Muslim and Islamic is uselessly redundant. Place Clichy (talk) 14:03, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy I agree Muslim and Islamic are not both necessary, because Islamic covers the fact that they are Muslim, however I would support renaming to 'Shia Islamic Scholars' as Muslim scholars includes both Muslims who have studied secular courses and Ulama, whereas Islamic scholars refers to Ulama. Amirah talk 22:23, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Madonna (entertainer) to Category:Madonna – C2D; consistency with main article's name. The singer was established as the primary topic in July 2020 after a requested move and relevant categories weren't renamed accordingly. Sean Stephens (talk) 12:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy as an explicit exception to WP:C2D. Quoting: "
This [criterion] applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator)
." This may be proposed and discussed in a full CfD discussion though. Place Clichy (talk) 12:55, 21 June 2021 (UTC) - Oppose as well as C2D clearly does not apply in this case. The nominator also failed to list the subcategories in which many could be considered less ambiguous but would still require a full discussion. There was a fun debate on this topic at CFD/S last year. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:37, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- See, none of this makes sense to me. If consensus deemed the singer as the primary topic, categorisation should reflect that. If we can't at the very least do that, maybe consensus was wrong. Sean Stephens (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sean Stephens: there is much sense to what you write, and you are invited to open a full discussion (at WP:CFD). People don't disagree with you, this just does not fall under the restricted cases when a longer discussion can be skipped. Place Clichy (talk) 04:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- See, none of this makes sense to me. If consensus deemed the singer as the primary topic, categorisation should reflect that. If we can't at the very least do that, maybe consensus was wrong. Sean Stephens (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy as an explicit exception to WP:C2D. Quoting: "
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:57, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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