Re: [RFC] Readonly property hooks

From: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 09:15:11 +0000
Subject: Re: [RFC] Readonly property hooks
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On 21/07/2025 11:11, Nick wrote:
> Thanks for the detailed answer--I get it.
> I honestly would have appreciated  to see you hop in with that in the earlier state of the
> RFC.
> It would have been more productive from my point of view. Maybe next time!

Hi Nick.

Honestly, it would've been extremely challenging to convince me anyway...
In any case, I'll make a mental note for that to put this argument out more upfront earlier.

> 
>>> As a new participant, I have difficulties to understand these kind of “politics”
>>> here.
>>
>> For me there is no politics at play regarding my vote.
>> For a large chunk of RFCs, I actually don't even vote.
>> For this one, I decided long ago.
>>
>>> What was this six weeks discussion exactly for if decisions apparently are taken in
>>> “other channels” that are not the officially documented ones?
>>
>> The decision for me was made on my own.
>> There was one brief discussion in the PHPF Slack that Larry started, I briefly joined in
>> there and there I told him about the mental model issue that I described above.
>> A few others also were not happy with the complicated mental model.
> 
> Neve mind me then. The “other channels “ argument sounded weird to me because I had no idea
> what it means. My bad.
> 

I guess I should've been clearer. We're good though.

In any case, good luck with any future endeavors in PHP(-src).

> --
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> *Cheers,*
> Nick

Kind regards
Niels


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