Re: Re: 64bit and phpng, votes and plans

From: Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:35:42 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: 64bit and phpng, votes and plans
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Hi Stas,

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>wrote:

> > 64bit int if int is 64bit. I prefer consistency, so array int key is
> better
> > to support
> > 64bit int key. IMHO.
>
> Given that 99.9999% of PHP users will never need it, but 100% of PHP
> users will pay in performance for each size increase, we need to be
> careful here. "Consistency" is not more magic word than "security".
>
> > Similar argument applies to string also. It would be WTF, when users try
> to
> > access string offset over 32bit values. Data dealt with PHP is getting
> > larger
> > and larger. It would be an issue sooner or later.
>
> Not likely, unless somehow PHP becomes language of choice for processing
> big data. Which I don't see exactly happening. But if it ever happens,
> we can deal with it then.


I think many people don't like PHP and/or switching to other languages are
concerned
about consistency as language. Users will just switch tool, so these would
be issues.
We just loose users(I mean we loose developers).

I'm really concerned about performance as much as security/consistency like
you.
However, average web developers are not. Most developers prefer large and
slow
web app frameworks. This is the reality. I think we must face our
users(developers).

Regards,

--
Yasuo Ohgaki
yohgaki@ohgaki.net


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