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| Jan 14, 2019 at 22:06 | comment | added | Conifold | "Reflection" (turning attention from the object of an action to the action itself) is vague enough to be mostly uncontroversial, it is only as applied to self-consciousness that some see it as the wrong model. Fichte et al. view the knowledge of self as something more like what Ryle calls knowledge-how, or phenomenal knowledge, than propositional knowledge-that which reflection outputs. | |
| Jan 14, 2019 at 21:45 | comment | added | user35983 | i meant reflection as something in addition to self awareness... thanks again @Conifold | |
| Jan 13, 2019 at 12:06 | comment | added | Conifold | On self-awareness only you are in good company:"It is true that Leibniz, Kant, Hegel, and after them many others (for example, Husserl) actually described self-consciousness as reflection... It is not true, however , for early romanticism and not, for example, for Fichte, Franz Brentano, Hans Schmalenbach, or Sartre... the I, still without knowledge of itself, turns to itself during the process of representation and becomes aware of: itself. But how is it supposed to register this insight if it has not already previously had a concept of itself?" [Frank, What is Neostructuralism? p.194]. | |
| Jan 13, 2019 at 11:32 | comment | added | user35983 | @Conifold i'm still unconvinced there is a genuine thing called "reflection" but thanks the comment | |
| Jan 13, 2019 at 10:06 | answer | added | user287279 | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jan 13, 2019 at 9:27 | comment | added | Conifold | Having a quale and getting "acquainted" with it are two different things, seeing a red apple is different from seeing apple as red, if only because some people may not even have the concept of red to do the latter. Think of the times when your mind is blank or you are dreaming, when there is no reflection on what is there. You are probably thinking "if I have a quale how would I prove (to myself?) that I am having it, that requires self-awareness", or something like that. But experience is experience even without reflection. | |
| Jan 13, 2019 at 3:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackPhilosophy/status/1084284056240455682 | ||
| Jan 12, 2019 at 23:54 | answer | added | CriglCragl | timeline score: 1 | |
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