Re: Moving to PHP5.1 and Apache 2.2 next year, need help

From: Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 19:42:08 +0000
Subject: Re: Moving to PHP5.1 and Apache 2.2 next year, need help
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We've made a start a long time ago, and we do our best to keep all of PHP thread-safe. On paper it is. When a bug appears we fix it. Is it a risk to run it... I think it is but I have seen people running it successfully on IIS for a long time. (I still think that's a bad idea though).

Andi

At 07:09 PM 8/9/2005 +0200, Ron Korving wrote:

Nonetheless, Rasmus, isn't it something to work on? Like Steve said, #1 and
#2 can be accomplished, and that would at least be a good start. You are
right about the libraries, but in time, even these may become thread safe
(of course, likely not by anyone from the PHP-community). Why is this
thread-safety such a taboo for many of the people here? Don't get me wrong,
I know it can't be done in one go, but a start could be made, right? Perhaps
that start could be made from PHP6 on? It doesn't have to be officially
thread safe, because of all the libraries, but it could be thread-safer...

Ron


"Rasmus Lerdorf" <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote in message
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steve roussey wrote:

I have read and understand that there are a number of issues:

1. Problems with the Apache2 sapi
2. Problems with thread safety in the Zend Engine or PHP itself
3. Problems with thread-safety of modules


You missed the most serious one.  Thread safety problems in random
libraries you link in and we have absolutely no control over those.

My stuff is far bigger and busier than yours, and I have absolutely no
intention to go threaded anytime soon.

-Rasmus

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