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    Remarque : "(cf. ci et ça)" ne marche pas, "ci" étant toujours utiliser en conjonction avec un autre mot (celui-ci, ci-devant, etc). Utiliser plutôt "ici et là", ou "ceci et cela" . Commented Sep 8, 2011 at 8:35
  • Dans le doute, parler de 80 printemps. :-) Commented Sep 8, 2011 at 9:45
  • @JulienGuertault Oui, ou 80 berges éventuellement, en fonction du contexte. Commented Jun 12, 2013 at 20:53