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  • I don't know if it is needed - both with and without sound ok to me. Commented Feb 3, 2017 at 0:43
  • In that case my question becomes, when is de optional after vouloir and when is it entirely inappropriate? Commented Feb 3, 2017 at 0:44
  • Except for cases like vouloir la soupe/vouloir de la soupe, my best guess is that it boils down to usage. Commented Feb 4, 2017 at 0:10
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    See french.stackexchange.com/q/13980/1109 Commented Feb 6, 2017 at 20:32