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I would like to transfer the flavour of cardamom to my food, so I want to heat the cardamom in some medium, dissolving the flavour chemicals, then dump that medium into whatever I'm cooking.

For this purpose, what works better: oil or water?

Some other forum members have pointed out questions about infusing spices in general, and none of the answers cover cardamom specifically. Indeed, many say it depends on the spice. Well, what about cardamom?

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  • To whomever closed my question: Your link does not mention cardamom, therefore my question is not a duplicate. Please reopen. Commented Sep 29, 2024 at 16:55
  • The problem is you are looking for "best" but everyone is telling you that all there is is "different". Like mashed potatoes vs french fries or whipped cream floating on coffee vs cream stirred into coffee. Different. Not just different amounts of cardamom-ness but different tones or notes. Which do you prefer? Which is right for the dish you're making? That's up to you. You may gain some insights from reading a lot of recipes and seeing what they suggest, or from experimenting and seeing what happens. Nobody here can tell you "best" because that's not a thing. Commented Sep 29, 2024 at 18:37
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    Voting to reopen. It should be possible to say whether the major flavour compounds are oil- or water-soluble. That would give a definition of 'best' that's of both scientific and culinary use. An experiment would give a good self answer (I'm almost tempted to try because I'm waiting for dinner to cook). Commented Sep 29, 2024 at 19:25
  • Note that Saudi coffee has cardamom added. That suggests water-solubility of useful parts of the flavour Commented Sep 29, 2024 at 19:26
  • OK, I'm reopening. Let's see what kind of answers come in, I'm genuinely curious :) Commented Sep 30, 2024 at 10:10

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The answer will come down to what flavour you want to get out of it. Cardamom is cooked in water (ground and added to Arabic coffee, or whole in some rice dishes, e.g. some forms of Pulao). On the other hand it's also crushed and cooked in oil in many spice blends including some Tadka recipes.

So now that we've established that both are real options, how would you start to make a decision?

The main flavour compounds as follows, from a list on Wikipedia. I've included the melting points because compounds that are liquid at cooking temperatures don't need to be dissolved to be extracted. Some will get out even if they're not soluble or even miscible; oils can sometimes be seen on the surface of hot water-based drinks for that reason.

Compound Soluble in Water Soluble/Miscible in Oil Melting point
α-terpineol 2.42g/l Assumed 32°C (some forms liquid)
Myrcene No Assumed <-10°C
Limonene No Yes −74.35 °C
Menthone Slightly Yes −6 °C
Phellandrene No Miscible (probably) <25 °C
Eucalyptol No Miscible 2.9 °C
Sabinene 5mg/l (i.e. barely) Yes/Miscible Unclear but below room temp

Of course some compounds have stronger flavours than others, so measured solubility alone isn't a good guide to the flavour that will be imparted to a solution. But it points us in the right direction.

So many of these compounds that contribute to the flavour will be barely extracted at all in (hot) water, and oil is needed for the full profile. However simmering or steeping in hot water is perfectly valid.

It proves easier to define solubility than "flavour of cardamom", as the latter is made up of many compounds (most of which are also present in other herbs and spices.

Returning to "dump that medium into whatever I'm cooking" from the question, if you do this with spices cooked in oil, that's basically a tadka (the spices are added along with the oil). Using cardamom-infused oil to substitute fat in a recipe could work, but cardamom-infused water would give a partial, subtle flavour at most. That's fine if it's what you want in a wet recipe, but dry recipes like these cardamom biscuits add it in ground form for a reason - there's no oil or water to act as a carrier (you could infuse the butter, melted, but that's a lot of hassle for a little flavour)


Most links Wikipedia, most values from there or other links on the same table row

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  • I might add flavour descriptions later, no time now, and they're more subjective - nut still useful in a culinary context Commented Sep 30, 2024 at 11:24

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