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Matthew 3:7-9

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, 9 and do not think to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.

In 1 Maccabees 4:44-46

44 They deliberated what ought to be done with the altar for burnt offerings that had been desecrated. 45 They decided it best to tear it down, lest it be a lasting shame to them that the Gentiles had defiled it; so they tore down the altar. 46 They stored the stones in a suitable place on the temple mount, until the coming of a prophet who could determine what to do with them.

John may not have been on the Temple Mount, though.

Matthew 3:1

In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Judea

So what are the stones John is referring to? It could be a metaphor for people outside the Abrahamic covenant, but what is the precedent for this in the OT?

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In Matthew 3, John the Baptist is saying that being a genetic descendent of Abraham is not sufficient without repentance. He states that God is able to raise up Abrahamic descendants from stone (I assume through miraculous action).

To state it otherwise, John is saying, "If God can make descendants of Abraham out of anything he chooses, then that is a quality that isn't going to specifically protect you from coming wrath. Only repentance can do that."

I don't personally see a connection to the passage in Maccabees. They would have been careful with the stones as they had been used in service to God, so they couldn't just be "tossed out", but if they had been desecrated, they couldn't be put back into service either.

Your question "what are the stones John is referring to?" If we take it metaphorically, then yes, the Gentiles are a good fit.

But the land of Israel is filled with rocky ground - there were rocks everywhere. So a very likely explanation is that he was just referring to the ordinary dirty rocks lying around. This would heighten the perceived insult of John's statement: God can raise up descendants of Abraham out of even ordinary rocks, not even special ones!

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    Good answer. As a possible adjustment - "8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance," In order to be one of God's people wouldn't Jesus be saying that it takes repentance and a life that reflects repentance? Commented Mar 31, 2025 at 15:00
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They stored the stones in a suitable place on the temple mount, until the coming of a prophet who could determine what to do with them.

This rules out the possibility that John referred, speaking of "these stones," meant the stones that are described in 1 Macc., because the Temple Mount was in Jerusalem and John was speaking on the shore of the Jordan River.

The stones are indeed metaphorical. They include non-Jews but probably also Jews who did not observe the Law. Some of the Pharisees, in fact, already affirmed that gentiles could convert to Judaism. This is evident from Jesus' statement in Matthew 23:15 “You traverse sea and land to make one convert." It is confirmed by the traditional story of Rabbi Hillel welcoming gentiles who wished to study. Sadducees, on the other hand, tended to be elitist. In my opinion they would be more likely to oppose conversion, but there is no clear biblical evidence for this.

As far as precedents in the OT, there are quite a few. Most of them are not explicitly stated but may be deduced from the context. All of the women listed in Matthew's Gospel as ancestors of Jesus (except Bathsheba and Mary) were non-Israelites. Tamar, apparently a Canaanite, married into Judah's clan. Whom Rahab of Jericho married is not clear. Some sources say Caleb, but in any case the NT is clear that she must have married an Israelite. Ruth in particular must have converted, as she was adopted under Jewish law as the wife of Boaz and became the great-grandmother of King David. Bathsheba was the wife of Uriah the Hittite. His conversion is implied by the fact he served as a commander in Israel's army and honored the laws of holy war by refusing to sleep with his wife when he returned Jerusalem before returning the battlefield. Jael the Kenite, praised as "most blessed among women" (Judges 5:24) is another example of a probable convert.

Whole tribes also may have converted: Kenites, Gibeonites. We should also consider that many other non-Israelites assimilated into Israel after the land was conquered.

The situation in the 2nd Temple period is harder to determine. Ezra and Nehemiah opposed intermarriage, apparently even with women who converted. However, Malachi may have taken issue with this policy when he prophesied:

Malachi 2:

15 Did he not make them one, with flesh and spirit? And what does the One require? Godly offspring! You should be on guard, then, for your life, and do not break faith with the wife of your youth. 16 For I hate divorce, says the Lord, the God of Israel...

It seems that for Malachi, probably writing in the same time period as Ezra, intermarriage was allowed as long as the woman converted and/or agreed to raise the children as Jews.

Conclusions: John referred to stones metaphorically, certainly referring to non-Jews but possibly also to the "lost sheep of Israel" who did not observe the Law. OT precedents for conversion are fairly well attested. Many of them are from the early period of Israel's history. While the reforms of Ezra and Nehemiah made conversion more difficult, it was still practiced.

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  • yeh. based on written torah anyone could join Israel. I meant old testament precedent for stone being metaphor for non Israelite. i don't think there is any Commented Apr 1, 2025 at 1:49
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And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:7 (KJV)

Clearly, John understood scripture.

In fact, God had only 30 years prior miraculously raised up a child to Abraham in their very midst:

  • 30And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God. 31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
    32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
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    35... The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

    Luke 1:30-32,35 (KJV)

  • 23And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age being ( as was supposed ) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
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    31Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
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    34Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Terah, which was the son of Nahor,

    Luke 3:23,31,34 (KJV)

John was scolding them, just as Moses had done before him. Their boast that Abraham was their father was a rejection of the LORD.

Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?
Deuteronomy 32:6 (KJV)

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