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The ghost in the machine was coined in Gilbert Ryle's 1949 critique of Cartesian dualism.

If this ghost is considered like energy flowing around a material substrate, then via E = mc2 the ghost and the machine are made of the same stuff, just in different forms.

Life and spirit is sometimes likened to a flame, a reactive process, e.g. Heraclitus, fragment 30.

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XX. Κόσμον τόνδε τὸν αὐτὸν ἁπάντων οὔτε τις θεῶν οὔτε ἀνθρώπων ἐποίησε, ἀλλ᾿ ἦν αἰεὶ καὶ ἔστι καὶ ἔσται πῦρ ἀείζωον, ἁπτόμενον μέτρα καὶ ἀποσβεννύμενον μέτρα.

On the Universe
XX. This world, which is the same for all, was made neither by a god nor by man, but it ever was, and is, and shall be, ever-living Fire (πῦρ ἀείζωον), in measures being kindled and in measures going out.

And in Derrida & Heidegger, Of Spirit (Derrida, 1989), pages 84 & 98.

"Doch was ist der Geist?" Heidegger indeed asks. What is spirit? Reply: "Der Geist ist das Flammende." Further on, "Der Geist ist Flamme."

How to translate? Spirit is what inflames? Rather, what inflames itself, setting itself on fire, setting fire to itself? Spirit is flame. A flame which inflames, or which inflames itself: both at once, the one and the other, the one the other. Con-flagration of the two in the very con-flagration.

the originary meaning (in der ursprünglichen Bedeutung) of the word "Geist," for gheis means: to be thrown (aufgebracht), transported [or transposed, deported: entsetzt, again — and I believe this is the most determining predicate], outside itself (ausser sich).

The reactive process shines beyond itself revealing its spirit to others.

These are layers of analogy, but how chemical is mind? In feelings chemistry is tangible in hunger or a sugar rush. And psychoactive materials can even more tangibly affect mind, even to the point of deep anesthesia.

So how close can the nature of mind be brought to its chemical reactive component?

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  1. What is the mind’s physical basis? We know the answer since a long time:

    The mind’s physical basis is the brain.

    But that’s not the real issue. The real problem is:

    How does the mind work?

  2. One may use as a working definition:

    The mind are the mental processes of the brain.

    These processes constitute the human data processing to construct information. This information controls how the person behaves and acts as an agent.

  3. The details are researched by neuroscience and cognitive psychology - but not by musing about metaphors from Heraclitus or about etymology like Heidegger did.

  4. Added in reply to a comment: The subjective method of observing the mind at work is introspection. One may introspect those mental processes which are conscious.

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  • Re. "The mind are the mental processes of the brain." – I was rather thinking of mind from the experiential point of view, as distinct from 'brain' which is objectively observed. While experience is all mind, mind is not so readily objectively observed. This is why I mention the 'shine' of spirit, which is most obvious when it shocks, eliciting in another a 'gasp' (also derived from *gheis-d-. So what I'm asking is how, from the experiential perspective, mind can be thought of as material if it is directly affected by material. Commented yesterday
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    The mind is readily observed, like everything else, because it manifests itself in action and behavior. It's impossible to having any feelings, for instance, that are not related to actions. Emotion is action-readiness. Fear manifests itself in fight, flight or immobility. It's impossible to even say what any "belief" is or means, if you abstract from the values and the possible actions that it implicitly refers to (or that form its actual context). The basic fact is that we learn to observe ourselves (and our own "inner" states) first by "outer" learning (imitation and learning to speak). Commented yesterday
  • @mudskipper – shows of "action and behavior" can just as well be done by a robot. In the examples I give of spirit, objective recognition is emphasised by heightened emotion, a transport, anger, shock, when the 'spirit' becomes more apparent to another. It probably won't be long till an AI can pull that off too. But anyway, really, mind is an interior phenomenon, and conventionally it can't be experienced by another. From the mind's point of view, awareness doesn't feel physical, (although of course one's body does). Commented yesterday
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    @mudskipper: I actually believe that nobody can observe our own minds. What we can observe is the models we have made of our own minds, in the same way that we can observe the models we have made of other minds. We refine the models continuously and without thinking about how we are doing so, and they are pretty good. But I certainly find myself doing some things I didn't expect I would, and I don't think I am unusual in that regard. Commented yesterday
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    @keshlam what we would need is an example of a non-physical thing affecting another with no physical mechanism involved. Like something in a running computer program affecting something else, but not affecting the hardware. It seems like an incoherent idea. But without an example to investigate, the question is best set aside, like all empty speculation. Commented 17 hours ago
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How close can the nature of mind be brought to its chemical reactive component?

This question is partially tendentious if it makes the presumption that the chemistry in our central nervous system is purely "reactive". Effects are caused by previous effects, but become active causes for further effects.

To answer the question, with both phenomenology (the experiential side) and biological process in mind, I believe we should first of all consider physical pain (and various ways to block pain). Next, we should consider emotions such as wonder or surprise, i.e. an emotion that is not a full emotion, but rather a pre-emotional state signalling a violation of expectations of which the subject only becomes aware by feeling surprised. Pain is the most basic emotion (and in a way the most elusive one). Surprise is the start of consciousness.

The philosophical question is why do I feel pain, i.e. feel it as "my" pain?A The only answer to that is (similar to the one given in Buddhism) that there is no conceptual distinction here: "me" and "my pain" define eachother. Pain is that which, at the most basic level, subjectivizes me, it defines the boundaries of the (bodily) "self". Functionally it is a demand for self-preservation.


(A) We actually don't just feel pain as purely "my" pain. It's impossible, unless you've numbed yourself, not to feel some pain when you see another creature in pain, especially one of your own species or one that is more similar to you. Spinoza already noted this in Ethics, III, prop. XXVII:

PROP. XXVII. By the very fact that we conceive a thing, which is like ourselves, and which we have not regarded with any emotion, to be affected with any emotion, we are ourselves affected with a like emotion (affectus).

From which he derived as one corollary:

We seek to free from misery, as far as we can, a thing which we pity.

And we know that this has a neurological basis in the Mirror Neuron System. (The formal equivalent in a mathematical model would, I think, be a fixed point.)

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    +1 interesting point. It reminds me that feelings and awareness are more fundamental than thoughts, being evolutionarily older, (upper brain-stem, rather than cortical). Commented yesterday
  • Re. "presumption that the chemistry … is purely "reactive"" – I mean the process is a reaction, like fire. "Spirit is flame." "Der Geist ist Flamme." Commented 19 hours ago
  • I would be interested in knowing how some people can lack empathy and pity. But it makes sense from evolution: the only way to fight such people is to be that way. Once the tendency 'arose' (if in fact it isn't just the lack of something), there's no way to eliminate it. Commented 17 hours ago
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Brain damage of specific types is probably a better, clearer example of the physical basis of mind. But you have to be clear what the issue is.

For Greeks their word for spirit meant breath, pneuma like in pneumatic. Interrupting the breath leads to death. The dependency of the mind on the continued intactness of the body, has always been clear.

But then, there is a widespread intuition that we 'decide who to be' on a mental level, with regard only to our thoughts, uninfluenced by the body. This occurs against a wider discourse of animals and humans that are more like animals being ruled by their bodies, but the wise, the philosopher, has attained some higher faculties that free them from the impulses of the body. This is obviously nonsense, but pervasive. In Idealist and Dualist philosophies this kind of intuition has been formalised, with the mental realm being 'more real', or causally supervenient on the physical while itself causally independent on it.

Mind-altering substances I would suggest don't show the physical-material dependence of the mind on the body, more than patterns of symptoms that go with very specific brain damage do. But, they do help show mental systems at work, like optical illusions help us understand visual perception.

psychedelic

suggested by British-born Canadian psychiatrist Humphry Osmond in a letter to Aldous Huxley and used by Osmond in a scientific paper published the next year; from Greek psykhē "mind" (see psyche) + dēloun "make visible, reveal" (from dēlos "visible, clear," from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine").

-from Etymonline

A common effect of psychedelic substances is to open up greater pattern recognition, including pareidolia in the visual field, but also feelings of noetic revelation about connections between ideas. DMT is particularly interesting as it is endogenous, it is found naturally in the brain, at higher rates during birth, and associated with near-death and panic situations where time is experienced as slowing down. The commonality between psychedelics seems to be inducing neuroplasticity, and with DMT we can see a biologically functional role for this. The cortical regions typically responsible for self-referential processing that we call the default-mode network lose their organizing control, and this seems to go not just with heightened pattern recognition, but an openness to literally rewiring aspects of the brain like our orientation around what is felt to be valuable or meaningful.

The prospects for psychedelic assisted therapies are fascinating, not so much for revealing that chemicals and physical conditions affect the brain, which in science should be a given. But more for helping us understand how our habits shape perceptions and mental activity, by opening people up to changing their mental habits.

I personally find the OrchOR hypothesis very interesting, with the idea microtubules involve quantum behaviour in mental activity, memory, and connectedness across the brain. Specific substances have some distinct areas of influence, like say ibogaine seems to interact strongly with dopamine-associated reward activities. But I would look for the commonality in impact between these very different chemical molecules, to their impact on microtubules like for instance in explaining the incredibly low dose threshold for LSD.

The paper LSD Modulates Proteins Involved in Cell Proteostasis, Energy Metabolism and Neuroplasticity in Human Brain Organoids indicates there is link between LSD effects and microtubule-associated protein 2, which colocates with serotonin in dendrite growth cones, and functions to stabilize neuronal shape by promoting microtubule synthesis and cross-linking with other components of the cytoskeleton. So I'd say this is at least plausible.

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    Spirit as breath: Hence both inspire and expire Commented 12 hours ago
  • @keshlam: And, perspire..? 😅 Commented 11 hours ago
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    Oliver Sachs has researched and described a very wide range of mental changes associated with damage to various parts of the brain. All of the effects are quite specific and repeated across multiple cases. If damage to the brain impedes functioning, it seems logical that mental functions arise from the brain. Very specific areas control specific mental experiences. Commented 9 hours ago
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There is overwhelming experimental evidence that mental activities are highly correlated with electrochemical effects in the brain. I won't try to summarise it, as there is a ton of information readily available online. However, the remaining explanatory gap is still the classic one of how do our feelings, experience and self awareness arise from it all. Even if we nail down the correlation to the nth degree, saying such and such brain activity always coexists with feeling bored, say, that still won't explain what it's like to feel bored.

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    I don't necessarily disagree with what you wrote, but have a question: Would you say your last statement means the same as (or would perhaps even be better expressed as) "... that still won't describe what it feels like to feel bored"? It seems to me that that is true, but that doesn't preclude explanation. I.e. the word "explain" and "explanation" seems ambiguous here. Commented 15 hours ago
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    E.g. the partial ineffability of direct experience can be seen as an introspective "given" (because we're not able to label, describe or remember certain distinctions even though we can observe them when they are presented simultaneously), but that doesn't preclude a decription that while adequate (and complete) cannot be verified just by introspection. Commented 14 hours ago
  • If qualia are outside of science, don't they not need explanation - they can simply, be? Commented 13 hours ago
  • @CriglCragl: I don't think I accept the concept of "outside of science" except for things which have no real presence in any sense. Outside of current knowledge, sure. Outside the scope we generally apply science to, absolutely. Outside the range that we feel a need to understand that deeply, sure. Commented 9 hours ago
  • @keshlam: By Popper's criteria, things like the different interpretations of quantum mechanics, being unfalsifiable, are outside science. Subjective experiences like whether art is felt to be good, are obviously real experiences, but outside of science. Many experiences are not about establishing evidence & analysis, like for instance experiencing love, as a subjective experience. Commented 8 hours ago
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You ask:

Does psychoactivity reveal the mind's physical basis?

No more or less than neural correlates of consciousness more broadly. Depending on how one defines mind, which is arguably an essentially contested concept, the mind is often taken to be an abstraction that correlates with concrete operations of the brain. When a person proposes a proposition about how the mind relates to the brain, that person is proposing the rudiments of a theory of a philosophy of mind. Trying to reduce that correlation to causation has been a source of much zealous debate for thousands of years.

This gives the philosopher of mind many sorts of responses as the taxonomy of theories recognizes based on the categories (SEP) one recognizes as fundamental: monism, dualism, and pluralism. From here, does one say emergence plays a role? Supervenience? Are categories in some sense parallel? Can we specifically identify one event type with another in the distinct categories? Have we simply decided to eliminate or reduce categories? The responses surely have a permutational flavor.

If by psychoactivity, you mean the effects of psychoactive compounds, then such activity supports the metaphysical claim that the mind is psychological in nature and that the best way to do philosophy of mind is with a naturalized epistemology. This is actually one of the hallmark claims of early analytical philosophy which began to take the phenomenalism of the early 19th century and turn that on its head advocating physicalism in its place. Starting with Wundt, the first self-proclaimed psychologist, physical science earnestly began presuming that the brain and body are responsible for mind, and exploring what science has to say about that presumption.

Today, one can appeal to psychology, philosophy of psychology, neuroscience, cognitive science, and particularly cognitive neuroscience in particular when discussing the mind. In that sense, psychoactivity is just another bolt in the quarrel for producing useful operational definitions of abstract structures and events of the mind. In my own interests in computer science, this has led to simulations of the mind under the heading cognitive architecture. From WP:

Cognitive neuroscience is the scientific field that is concerned with the study of the biological processes and aspects that underlie cognition,1 with a specific focus on the neural connections in the brain which are involved in mental processes.2 It addresses the questions of how cognitive activities are affected or controlled by neural circuits in the brain.


See also:

  • Psychological Explanation by Jerry A. Fodor
  • Neuroscience & Philosophy: Brain, Mind & Language by Bennett, Dennett, et al.
  • Cognitive Neurosciece by Richard Passingham
  • Philosophy of Mind by John Heil
  • Cognitive Science, 3rd Ed. by Jose Luis Bermudez
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  • "supports the metaphysical claim that the mind is psychological in nature", not very clear... we have the brain, the physical (and chemical) part, the mind, the process/functions (abstract) of the brain. Where is "the psychological"? It is related to psyche, that seems to be on the mind side. I suppose that there is no tertium... Commented 17 hours ago
  • @MauroALLEGRANZA it's tertiums all the way down. (I prefer nasturtiums.) Too much flowery prose! Commented 17 hours ago
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    @MauroALLEGRANZA Salve! I would argue, like others, there are three things, indeed! For me: tria sunt: ​​corpus, mens, et computatio. So, instead of appealing to immanence or the transcendental, we appeal to the computational. Sed nemo sum, ergo omnia cum grano salis accipite! Commented 14 hours ago

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