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I'm looking to put together a 555 timer on a PCB as a learning aid (that is, put three 5k resistors, a couple comparators, a flip-flop, transistor, and an inverter on a PCB to represent the internal workings of a 555).

All of the components are pretty straightforward to find except the flip-flop.

Since the flip-flop inside the 555 is a level-triggered flip-flop (as opposed to an clock-enabled flip-flop typically available - as described in this comment), I'm having trouble finding an appropriate IC for this.

Does anyone have any recommendations and/or advice?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ You might also want to look at EvilMadScientist labs' "Three Fives" kit - a 555 made from discretes. No flip-flop IC just a handful of transistors for that part, and the datasheet has a full schematic \$\endgroup\$
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This Q covers many things 555: Is the NE555 the IC I need, and if not, what do I replace it with?

One of the answers explores the internals of the 555. You can use that as a guide to construct your homebrew 555 from the following:

  • two comparators
  • two 3-input NOR gates
  • one inverter (for RESET) or use another NOR gate
  • one NPN or n-FET transistor (for DISCHARGE)
  • three 5K ohm resistors

The two NOR gates form an R-S flip-flop that's triggered by the comparators.

If you want to model a device with an extended voltage range like the 555 itself, your best choice is to use a CMOS gate like the CD4025B 3-input NOR. For the comparators you could use LM393 (but don't forget to add the pull-ups on the outputs) or a push-pull type like the TLC3702.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Good catch!! This does include access to the RS FF by RESET! I'll add a couple of other interesting pages, externally: 555 timer die tear-down and making a 50 MHz capable 555 from discrete ICs that's useful as a very fast one-shot. \$\endgroup\$ Commented 17 hours ago
  • \$\begingroup\$ I have quad 2-input NORs on-hand so I think that might be my solution. Use two NORs for the latch, and 2 as an OR gate for the R pin of the latch. \$\endgroup\$
    – Trevor
    Commented 17 hours ago
  • \$\begingroup\$ I think you're going to find that you need more than two NORs, since you also have to invert RESETn (it's active low in the 555.) It'll be nicer if you use the CD4025B. \$\endgroup\$ Commented 16 hours ago
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Any flip-flop with a S and R input will work.

Better yet, make your own with a couple of NOR gates (controlled by a '1' at the input).

SR Flip-Flop: NOR or NAND?

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However, use a 3-input NOR gate for the reset gate so it the flip-flop can be reset from either the "Threshold" comparator or the "Reset" input of the 555.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ I was thinking about just making it out of gates, but wondered if maybe this was putting a hat on a hat in terms of clarity for learning aids? \$\endgroup\$
    – Trevor
    Commented 17 hours ago

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