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The concept of open borders between friendly nations seems to enjoy a certain amount of infamy in the public imagination. If one were to temporarily suspend trepidation about the obvious pain points and seek to study the idea in an objective manner, would the Irish model make for a useful case study when considering the various advantages and challenges of such an arrangement?

I'm thinking about how people often tend to look to other countries for evidence of the strengths and weaknesses of various healthcare, education, and other domestic policies and am wondering if it would make sense to do something similar with border policies, in this case using Ireland as an example. I'm open to exploring either the possibility that Ireland is a poor model or that this entire line of inquiry is a fool's errand since, broadly speaking, relations between neighboring countries are never alike and every border comes with its own set of complications.

To clarify, I'm not asking whether or not open borders are a good idea. Similar to my last question, I'm more interested in the process of formulating a valid opinion than in having the opinion. Hope this make sense.

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    The border isn't really open. As a non Irish EU citizen I couldn't simply use that border to enter the UK. Or maybe in practice I could (not sure) but it would be illegal. Commented Feb 28 at 9:22
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    This needs more clarity. What do you want to model? What do you want to generalize it to? It's like saying "Could a rowing boat be used as a generalized model of a mode of transport?" Commented Feb 28 at 9:34
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    Another problem with this question as clarified in the preceding comment is that "open border" can mean many different things. Ireland has open borders with the rest of the EU in some senses but not others. Non-EU countries in the Schengen area have open borders with the rest of the Schengen area in some senses but not others. A bilateral border policy that applies differently to non-citizens of both countries (as with the CTA) is not truly "open" in some respects. The ability "to cross back and forth without restriction" can coexist with passport controls. There are always some restrictions. Commented Feb 28 at 10:21
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    Ok, but which aspect of that border's openness is of interest to you? You say you're interested in citizens of the two nations crossing without restriction, but that situation also exists for people crossing from the Republic of Ireland directly to the island of Great Britain, so why are you focusing on the land border? Are you aware that the common travel area has existed for a century, but for many decades of that period there were nonetheless militarized border checkpoints? Or that the border between Ireland and France is in many respects more open than between Ireland and the UK? Commented Feb 28 at 22:58
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    @ohwilleke but Puerto Rico is a US territory; Puerto Ricans are US citizens. It may be an instructive example for examining certain issues such as customs controls and immigration controls, but it is not directly applicable to "borders between friendly but independent nations." Commented Mar 1 at 14:47

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The Irish border is a poor example. It only works because of the Common Travel Area, allowing UK and Irish citizens to move freely between each other’s countries. This kind of relationship is not popular internationally, especially outside Europe, with the EU and the (overlapping) Nordic Passport Union being the only other examples I know of.

It also only works because Northern Ireland is still following many EU rules. Again, an open border arrangement requiring one side to follow the other side’s rules is not likely to be widely popular.

The EU is a much better example of open borders.

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    I believe a similar arrangement exists between the Russian Federation and Belarus, or at least did exist a few years ago. This answer, though, is rather begging the question. The CTA exists in part to provide an open border; it is (as this answer indicates) an integral part of the model that the question is asking about generalizing. Any other pair of countries wishing to establish a mutual border similar to that between the UK and the ROI could well implement a similar arrangement (and would arguably need to do so). Commented Feb 28 at 10:10
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    Furthermore, "it only works because of the CTA" ignores customs considerations. These are mentioned implicitly through the phrases "still following many EU rules" and "the EU is a much better example of open borders," but the answer would be improved by discussing customs explicitly. Commented Feb 28 at 10:13
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"Open border" can mean many different things. Ireland has open borders with the rest of the EU in some senses but not others: you need a passport or national ID card to travel between Ireland and other EU countries, but Irish citizens have the right to enter, live in, and work in other EU countries simply by showing a passport. For an Irish citizen, there are two major differences between the rest of the EU and the UK, namely that one has to show a passport to enter other EU countries and that one may have to declare goods and pay duties on them when traveling to the UK.

A bilateral border policy that applies differently to non-citizens of both countries (as with the common travel area) is not truly "open" in every respect. Most notably, because the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom do not have a unified immigration control system, people from other countries are not as free to cross the border, meaning that British and Irish citizens may be asked to prove their British or Irish citizenship, especially if they are not native born. The more control there is, the less freedom from restrictions British and Irish citizens will be. The alternative is that the border will be porous -- easy to circumvent (and this seems to be the current approach on the Irish land border).

(The Schengen area comes somewhat closer to the ideal by implementing a common system for controlling short-term visits, but the fact that long-term residence is still governed by individual countries means that the internal borders are similarly either controlled or porous. In the last decade or so especially, many Schengen members have been increasingly favoring control, reducing porosity but also reducing freedom.)

To have an open border with respect to customs checks, you need a customs union. Note that a free trade area doesn't cut it, because it doesn't apply to goods from other countries. The importance of customs regulations to open borders may be seen in the provisions for treating Northern Ireland de facto as a separate customs territory after Brexit. The importance of removing customs checks to the establishment of an open border may also be seen in the fact that the common travel area existed from the earliest days of Ireland's independence while the border checkpoints persisted until after Ireland and the UK joined the customs union.

Thus the Irish border serves as a useful case study illustrating important considerations for an open border policy, but its particular complexities make it an unlikely model to apply to open borders generally.

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would the Irish model make for a useful case study when considering the various advantages and challenges of such an arrangement?

No.

Ireland and Northern Ireland are very similar

One of the biggest problem with using the border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland as a model of an "open borders policy" is that, despite the tyranny of small differences (mostly Catholic v. Protestant distinctions), the two populations have so much in common.

They speak the same language. They drink the same kinds of whisky and beer (although they prefer different brands). They eat the same kinds of foods. They are in the same climate zone. They are both predominantly Western Christian. They share most of the same history. They are both quite similar looking white people. There aren't huge differences between them in affluence or legal systems. They drive on the same side of the road. (The Republic of Ireland has a much higher per capita GDP than Northern Ireland, but this discrepancy is mostly a quirk of the way GDP accounting works in the case of a county that is, like the Republic of Ireland, basically a big tax shelter for foreign multi-national corporations and rich people who don't really live there or spend much money there.)

One might compare the degree of ethnic difference between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland to the degree of ethnic difference between heavily Catholic Rhode Island, and adjacent historically Protestant Connecticut, in the United States, which have also had open borders between them for a very long time.

You can focus on the small differences, but political concern about "open borders" paradigmatically, focuses on different situations. Situations where there are huge differences in affluence and education, where there are big cultural, ethnic, and racial differences, where migrants flow overwhelmingly in one direction, where the migrants aren't familiar with the legal system of the country to which they are migrating, where there are different norms about acceptable and unacceptable behavior, and where the religious differences are sometimes much, much greater.

There is little migration across this open border

Ireland and Northern Ireland, after a long period of free immigration (including all of the U.K.'s E.U. membership pre-Brexit and under treaties before then, and the long period when they were part of the same country prior to 1922), and no real language barriers, is very well sorted. People who want to be in the Republican of Ireland live there. People who want to live in Northern Ireland live there.

There is little pent up demand to relocate from one to the other. In contrast, the early phase of an open borders regime contemplates a deluge of pent up migration from the closed borders era.

Ireland and Northern Ireland are both mostly sources of migration to other countries, and destinations from other countries, neither of which mostly involve open borders.

Ireland and Northern Ireland also have historically been net sources of immigration to other places (both before Irish Independence and afterwards, on both sides of that border), rather than destinations, which is not the paradigmatic open borders scenario. The total population on the island of Ireland in 1841 was 8.2 million (according to census figures which may have undercounted its population), and may have reached a peak population of 8.5 million by 1844. Including today’s Northern Ireland population, the island now has 6.9 million people (as of 2022 when I last traveled there). Basically, even now, about 180 years later, Ireland's population has still not recovered from the population that it lost in the Great Potato Famine of 1845-1849 and its aftermath.

The Republic of Ireland has actually recently welcomes a lot of immigrants from many places around the world and has a similar percentage of foreign born people to the United States. But, this is very recent. Again, as of 2022, more than 17% of the population of the Republic of Ireland is foreign born (higher in Dublin, lower elsewhere) compared to 15% in the U.S. But, 46% of the foreign born residents have lived in Ireland less than five years, so immigration into the Republic of Ireland is mostly very recent indeed. By comparison, the U.S. had a foreign born population of about 5% in 1970 at its low point, which has grown relatively gradually over 55 years to its current 15%.

However, while Ireland has welcomed people from other countries (including many Ukrainian refugees), this hasn't been the result of a genuine open borders policy, unlike the migration back and forth across the border with Northern Ireland.

Ireland's history of foreign land ownership is confounding

One other quirk about Ireland that makes it an atypical example is that as of 1922, a century ago, when the Republic of Ireland formally gained independence, only 5% of the land in Ireland was owned by Irish people. This had profound economic, legal, and political implications that could cofound any effort to determine how much this rather than an open borders policy influences anything that is observed that might be attributable to the open borders policy.

Puerto Rico is a better example from which to generalize

A better paradigm for the kind of "open borders" that people who are concerned about them are interested in, might be the sustained open borders between the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico and the continental United States, since Puerto Ricans gained U.S. citizenship status in 1917 (and in most cases, earlier). Puerto Rico has a great deal in common with other Spanish speaking territories and countries in the Caribbean and along the Gulf of Mexico's South American and Central American coast.

But, unlike all of those other countries, it has had more than a century of open borders with the rest of the U.S. Roughly half of people born in Puerto Rico who are alive today have migrated to the mainland (especially people of peak working age), and this continuous migration away from Puerto Rico to the mainland United States is ongoing, despite having more than a century to stabilize.

The E.U. is also a better example.

The E.U. is a case of a region of very different countries having open borders even more recently, and provides the added benefit of allowing an observer to look at the impact of the expansion of the E.U.'s border free region over time that can test if hypotheses about the cause of certain effects are really due to open borders or have some other cause that just happens to coincide in time.

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    That part about the similarities kinda oversimplifies quite a bit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles and the rest of Irish/UK history, of occupation, settlers colonialism, independence, famine and lack of relief, etc. Commented Mar 1 at 10:40
  • @haxor789 Yes. There was a long standing conflict. But, ultimately they are small differences. Commented Mar 1 at 12:15
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    One issue that this answer highlights implicitly is that the major concerns with open borders are frequently related to third-country migrants traveling through one country to the other. This is far less of a concern between Ireland and the UK because they have no land borders with other countries. Another thing to note is that roughly 3/4 of the non-Irish citizens living in Ireland are either from the UK or the EU (16% from the UK), so they live there as a matter of right without having to apply to immigrate. There are passport controls, but for EU citizens the border is effectively open. Commented Mar 1 at 17:07

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